Posted by Jester Lapse

I think this debate is actually a good one and not as cut and dry as some seem to think it is. I see mostly staff advocating that it is okay for staff to own gangs. I don't really play era, nor have I cared about the basing scene in a long time, so I will try to keep my opinion unbiased.

As with every debate, there are two sides. I see both sides of the coin as I am staff on iZone and I was a long time player on iEra AND iClassic. Now, the reason I say it is not as black and white as some believe it to be is for the following reasons,

-People would rather be in a staff gang than a player gang most of the time. Yes, I have seen it over and over. Between Magic and Zanza on classic to candy and sk on era. One of the reasons basing lost its charm for me back in the day was simply because staff members would use unreleased guns (call it testing~yet they still are not out), use seemingly unlimited grenades, would do freebies anytime their members needed ammo etc etc. I have been in quite a few staff gangs in my time on era, ranging between milkshake, jsi, bboy, HW, etc etc. It happens(not saying the staff listed did it), in fact the only reason you don't see unreleased guns in basing anymore is because I bitched to snk about 3 times about it.

-Staff need a break, so they should be able to enjoy the game. This is also true, staff do need a break and should be allowed to partake in activities. They also are able to find bugs and glitches by actually playing what everyone else plays. My suggestion was they should only be able to do so on their iDevices. This brings the question "what if they do not have one?" ~ in that case, it sucks for them really. I don't see why you would want to work for a server you have never played before.
Also, basing from PC against a bunch of iOS Devices gives the PC player a significant advantage. Not only are you able to click to shoot, but your usually have more of a view than an iPad zoomed out. Ever wonder how they know where to shoot from across the hall? Also, someone is going to claim the FB and Skyrider make it equal. Those laggy pieces of (french) is the most difficult thing to play on. They lag every 20 seconds and it just does not compare.

-Now with all that said, while on iZone, I partake in activities that involve planet taking (equivalent to basing). I do it rarely, but I still do it. The only time I use my staff account however, is when I am looking for bugs that need to be fixed. I also think staff should join OTHER peoples gangs instead of using their own. Both of my squads on Zone are just friendly squads, no "get to base or kick". But I find on era, the get to base is one of the leading gangs on the server. I remember the only time staff based, was when you asked for a challenge and a gang full of admins would attack you and it was actually enjoyable because they did not aim to just take your base and shut you out, it was more of a PK exercise than anything.

-Not to mention when a staff member has an idiot on their tag breaking rules and being a general twit, it reflects badly on them. That is how players minds work sadly.

Anyways, those are my views on the matter.

Unlimited grenades, that is what she would do. Homeless witch would use unlimited grenades to gaurd doors and she always had an un-released gun, but like others said aaron doesn't respond. Actually, auron blocked me.  

I should have rephrased this poll to:

" should an admin be allowed to actively compete against normal players?"

that's really the question within the question. 2nd account or not. Because that's where the abuse comes in.

And I saw that 99% guy basing WITH admin account under Londeso tag earlier today and reported. Then he quickly removed...sigh.  

Posted by K!LLA KEV

I should have rephrased this poll to:

" should an admin be allowed to actively compete against normal players?"

that's really the question within the question. 2nd account or not. Because that's where the abuse comes in.

And I saw that 99% guy basing WITH admin account under Londeso tag earlier today and reported. Then he quickly removed...sigh.

I did see that report and was going to follow it up, someone said something about basing with gold ap, though he was afk and no gold ap when I got there so all seemed okay. He probably just forgot.

Posted by HomoPanda

6000 burgers is not enough to handle a base for a year....LOL....unless you're basing like 10 minutes a day.
i went through 3000 hotdog's in like 2-3 weeks.



because her staff account has access to an endless supply of heals and items.....i already stated that.

We can't actually drop any items other than EC.
Shouldn't be any reason for her to have more than a standard character unless shes on for the spam of freebies etc  

Posted by K!LLA KEV

I should have rephrased this poll to:

" should an admin be allowed to actively compete against normal players?"

that's really the question within the question. 2nd account or not. Because that's where the abuse comes in.

And I saw that 99% guy basing WITH admin account under Londeso tag earlier today and reported. Then he quickly removed...sigh.

Well they would have been normal players at one time and some would eventually go back to being normal players so stopping them doing things like that is a bit unfair.  

Posted by lord greg

Well they would have been normal players at one time and some would eventually go back to being normal players so stopping them doing things like that is a bit unfair.

they should be one or the other.  

Posted by K!LLA KEV

they should be one or the other.

Uh, no. No they should not.
Does that mean if we hire you, you'll quit being a player and reset your account?
People still wish to progress on their accounts, if they don't play, they'll be miles behind on content.  

On the one hand, they're normal players. Why shouldn't they be allowed to own a gang?

On the other hand, they may spend more time on their gang than on their admin-job.

I think if they don't abuse their powers, everything will be fine.  

Posted by SnakeRekon

Uh, no. No they should not.
Does that mean if we hire you, you'll quit being a player and reset your account?
People still wish to progress on their accounts, if they don't play, they'll be miles behind on content.

I don't want to be an admin. And I never said they need to"reset" their account. But they should focus on being one of the other. Becuz they should. Being both and still playing competitively is what causes abuse.

focus on keeping the game fair and balanced rather than worrying about your own stats, accomplishments, your own gang. Etc.

Isn't that what an admin is for? Or do people just become an admin for fame and power, and an advantage against others....  

Eras admins just wanna be famous thats all  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Eras admins just wanna be famous thats all

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Eras admins just wanna be famous thats all

Not really, that's mostly the new comers who tend to do that more so than the older staff  

Let me rephrase that to Eras new PR's just wanna be famous.  

Posted by K!LLA KEV

I don't want to be an admin. And I never said they need to"reset" their account. But they should focus on being one of the other. Becuz they should. Being both and still playing competitively is what causes abuse.

focus on keeping the game fair and balanced rather than worrying about your own stats, accomplishments, your own gang. Etc.

Isn't that what an admin is for? Or do people just become an admin for fame and power, and an advantage against others....

It may cause abuse, however - they are rather isolated cases from what I see, easier to handle it on a case by case basis rather than making some generic rule for all admins.
This is why players becoming Admins is a bad idea, they miss out on playing the game properly and then it loses its fun.

PR's especially; their job doesn't really involve anything that should cause any kind of bias, I manage to keep an unbias view on the entire of IEra, so it's not impossible.

Sure, Admins are supposed to keep balance, however as soon as they swap to their player account, they cease being a Staff Member at that point and become a player. Every now and again it'll overlapse if people are asking you questions etc on your Iphone device, however it's upto the admin if they choose to answer or not.  

HomelessWitch doesn't abuse anymore <3

HomelessWitch doesn't abuse anymore <3  

Posted by K!LLA KEV

i said alot voted. not more, take away all the admin votes, and even if its still more for yes, its alot more accurate.

& this brings up another point in this thread, an admin's influence.

maybe admins should just let players play the game, and admins be admins and administrate. (and if you think its boring, dont be an admin, and just be a player)

there done.

Administrate and never play? That is equivalent to unpaid slave labor. Perhaps when a paycheck comes in, we'll talk.