I think we should have FB server back then all the problems will be sorted and threads/posts like this wont come up.  

Posted by Xenthic

I think we should have FB server back then all the problems will be sorted and threads/posts like this wont come up.

I honestly doubt that'll work.
The server barely managed to get 12+ people  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

So it is fair for the other sparrers that are sparring with iDevice?

The scrub would take great issue with this statement for he usually believes that he is playing to win, but he is bound up by an intricate construct of fictitious rules that prevent him from ever truly competing. These made-up rules vary from game to game, of course, but their character remains constant. In Street Fighter, for example, the scrub labels a wide variety of tactics and situations "cheap." So-called "cheapness" is truly the mantra of the scrub.

What you're doing with your last statement is creating rules to the game that exist only in your mind. You didn't make the game. You don't make the rules. No one has to adhere to this fantasy land that you've conjured up in your mind where your opinion regulates what is and isn't fair in the game.

Anything the game allows is completely fair as long as it is consistent to all of the players. Every single player is allowed to access the game and spar by PC, and every single player is allowed to access the game and spar by iDevice.

It would be unfair if the staff only allowed certain players to play by PC.
Anyway, you don't refuse to spar on PC out of the goodness of your heart and to make it "fair," you refuse to spar on PC because you suck at, it or you don't have a PC, or you just don't want to win. Those are the only three reasons. Just be serious.

iDevice players (or at least you) cry that PC players have an advantage, and PC players can counter that by saying that you are disadvantaged. Does it make more sense for me to cripple myself and be a worse player (by your theory), or does it make more sense for you to bring yourself up the competitive level and play on the device that you claim has the advantage?

So, I'll say it again: If you truly believe that the PC is an advantaged device, you can either:

1. Play by PC
2. Improve as an iDevice sparrer
3. Continue crying

Your choice does not affect me at all and I will continue winning because I am a smarter and better player than you. I am raising my hands in victory right now at the thought of how much smarter and better I am than you. I feel like a superior human, far beyond your level of understanding, intelligence, and competitiveness. Defeating you in this conversation was as effortless as it'd be to defeat you in a spar. You are a terrible internet gaming peon who will never come close to me and I am disgusted that we even play the same game.

 

Posted by Thallen

What you're doing with your last statement is creating rules to the game that exist only in your mind. You didn't make the game. You don't make the rules. No one has to adhere to this fantasy land that you've conjured up in your mind where your opinion regulates what is and isn't fair in the game.

Anything the game allows is completely fair as long as it is consistent to all of the players. Every single player is allowed to access the game and spar by PC, and every single player is allowed to access the game and spar by iDevice.

It would be unfair if the staff only allowed certain players to play by PC.
Anyway, you don't refuse to spar on PC out of the goodness of your heart and to make it "fair," you refuse to spar on PC because you suck at, it or you don't have a PC, or you just don't want to win. Those are the only three reasons. Just be serious.

iDevice players (or at least you) cry that PC players have an advantage, and PC players can counter that by saying that you are disadvantaged. Does it make more sense for me to cripple myself and be a worse player (by your theory), or does it make more sense for you to bring yourself up the competitive level and play on the device that you claim has the advantage?

So, I'll say it again: If you truly believe that the PC is an advantaged device, you can either:

1. Play by PC
2. Improve as an iDevice sparrer
3. Continue crying

Your choice does not affect me at all and I will continue winning.

You don't understand what i'm trying to say. let me simplify it for you.

What i believe is that using a PC in a way is cheating for the majority of iDevice players. What i want is a fair game, not a game where i know I am going to win because i am on a PC, i have that speed boost, and apparently goes through swords.

I want to enjoy a game where i am versing a player that has the same device as me, so we can see who really is the best. That is why there is two 2 rooms for certain devices. For the mixed room, you cannot say you are the best because you are on a device that is unfair.

In conclusion, if you beat someone that is using an iDevice they have the right to complain that you are cheating because of the unfair terms. It is okay to verse someone that is using the same device as your self because it is in fair terms. When i get on my PC and go to Facebook and use the app Stefan made me, i go to the PC room where its equal and fair, even though i know i can easily beat someone that is using an iDevice and get a "unfair win"

I am simply playing fairly, not playing to win by cheating  

Sparring threads are soooooo boring  

btw Thallen. it is completely understandable that you play to win, and would do anything in order to do so.  

Thallen you should try iDevice spar ^_^  

Posted by Thallen

What you're doing with your last statement is creating rules to the game that exist only in your mind. You didn't make the game. You don't make the rules. No one has to adhere to this fantasy land that you've conjured up in your mind where your opinion regulates what is and isn't fair in the game.

Anything the game allows is completely fair as long as it is consistent to all of the players. Every single player is allowed to access the game and spar by PC, and every single player is allowed to access the game and spar by iDevice.

It would be unfair if the staff only allowed certain players to play by PC.
Anyway, you don't refuse to spar on PC out of the goodness of your heart and to make it "fair," you refuse to spar on PC because you suck at, it or you don't have a PC, or you just don't want to win. Those are the only three reasons. Just be serious.

iDevice players (or at least you) cry that PC players have an advantage, and PC players can counter that by saying that you are disadvantaged. Does it make more sense for me to cripple myself and be a worse player (by your theory), or does it make more sense for you to bring yourself up the competitive level and play on the device that you claim has the advantage?

So, I'll say it again: If you truly believe that the PC is an advantaged device, you can either:

1. Play by PC
2. Improve as an iDevice sparrer
3. Continue crying

Your choice does not affect me at all and I will continue winning because I am a smarter and better player than you. I am raising my hands in victory right now at the thought of how much smarter and better I am than you. I feel like a superior human, far beyond your level of understanding, intelligence, and competitiveness. Defeating you in this conversation was as effortless as it'd be to defeat you in a spar. You are a terrible internet gaming peon who will never come close to me and I am disgusted that we even play the same game.

Just gonna go ahead and requote this as Ash Ketchum clearly did not read and comprehend it since it has an answer to literally every single thing he said in his previous post. Gonna go win some spars now, catch you later!  

I didn't answer it because i can't read your font. Change it pls  

As someone who has been active on both, I don't think there's any real debate that sparring on Facebook is easier than sparring on an iDevice. It just is, and the amount of people that switched from poor iDevice sparrers to somewhat average Facebook sparrers is a good example of this. People suddenly having an easier ride for not using iDevices has created an iDevice elitism. It is understandable, given that this version originated as an iPhone game and still consists of a 90% iPhone playerbase -- there's only ever 100~ Facebook players online.

Thallen is correct though, but I don't think most people are understanding it. If you hold this belief that Facebook is easier, and own a PC which most people do, then the only thing that is stopping you from using it is yourself. Your own pride, I guess. It is a platform that is open to everyone and it is an intended part of the game. Things like the leaderboards are divided up so that skill is not being measured between the platforms. I don't understand what the problem is, nor why arguments on technicalities are being attempted. You're not forced to spar each other and you're only limited to what devices you own and your attitudes towards them.

The game is not intended for people on iDevices alone anymore. I don't like it much either, and I am known for sparring on Facebook, but that's just how it is.  

I think we are talking about iDevice vs PC, PC can do movements which IPHONE PLAYERS CAN'T DO!.

Oh btw Rufus sort out the PC bug where they can arrow spam while dead at PK I reported this thousands of times but nothing happened, why?  

Posted by Xenthic

Oh btw Rufus sort out the PC bug where they can arrow spam while dead at PK I reported this thousands of times but nothing happened, why?

Ths is probably because nobody who can act on feedback reads the feedback.  

Pointless tool then lol.  

Posted by Thallen

Your choice does not affect me at all and I will continue winning because I am a smarter and better player than you. I am raising my hands in victory right now at the thought of how much smarter and better I am than you. I feel like a superior human, far beyond your level of understanding, intelligence, and competitiveness. Defeating you in this conversation was as effortless as it'd be to defeat you in a spar. You are a terrible internet gaming peon who will never come close to me and I am disgusted that we even play the same game.

I laughed way too hard at this.  

I really don't understand how people enjoy sparring so much. The hit detection is so bad it's almost unplayable.