Wow GOAT rocked you lol. Alls you can manage to do is make fun of people's intelligence without defending a single point that has been thrown at you. If you can actually manage to defend anything GOAT said without turning this into a name calling fight I'll be amazed.

Posted by Thallen

Just requoting this so that it's at the top of the page so people can see the type of personalities we have in this argument. GOAT, Ash Ketchum, Goten, and Prynce: true contributors, saviors, and highly-skilled individuals in the sparring community.

Zzz once again nothing of importance.  

Thallen, let me ask you a serious question. Are you just acting like that, or are you really that stupid?
Let me tell you something, to have a discussion, you have to listen to the other opinion, not only qoute yourself all the time, and trying to sound clever. Because, hey; you're not. I can't say if you're just a joke only, a bad one of course because that would probably be too high.rated for a person like yours. Why don't you go back on PC Graal and keep those trainers turned on?  

In your desperate attempt to seem as smart as possible, you used a semicolon completely incorrectly.

Can we close this thread yet? There are too many people ITT who aren't intelligent enough to contribute meaningful information to the discussion. I'm really sorry if that sounds harsh or offends anyone, but it's 100% true.  

Posted by Thallen

Can we close this thread yet? There are too many people ITT who aren't intelligent enough to contribute meaningful information to the discussion. I'm really sorry if that sounds harsh or offends anyone, but it's 100% true.

One of "those people" is you, this thread was about the PC/iDevice "conflict", and not about starting flamewars, or offending people as you did.

PCs have advantages, and it is unfair for an iDevice to spar a PC, but they can change the situation all the time when they get on their own PCs.  

Rage quit because you can't defend anything that was thrown at you.  

Posted by Thallen

In your desperate attempt to seem as smart as possible, you used a semicolon completely incorrectly.

Can we close this thread yet? There are too many people ITT who aren't intelligent enough to contribute meaningful information to the discussion. I'm really sorry if that sounds harsh or offends anyone, but it's 100% true.

Looks like the scrub has given up. iDevicers 2 pc 0
The best sign of defeat is an attack on grammar/spelling so put your tail between your legs and go back to your pc spar thread  

Posted by Thallen

There are too many people ITT who aren't intelligent enough to contribute meaningful information to the discussion.

Posted by Dictionary.com

in·tel·li·gence [in-tel-i-juhns]
noun
1.
capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings, etc.

Seems you are the one lacking intelligence, or the "ability to understand" seeing as you are so narrow-minded only listening to yourself and take into consideration only what you have to say, not others. Everyone else is responding to your points whereas you fail to respond to others with anything other than "du u evn spar bro?!" Kindly learn the words you use before using them.  

Let's not bully him now, I bet he is crying in his corner now, hugging his "Petfish".  

Posted by Jester Lapse

Seems you are the one lacking intelligence, or the "ability to understand" seeing as you are so narrow-minded only listening to yourself and take into consideration only what you have to say, not others. Everyone else is responding to your points whereas you fail to respond to others with anything other than "du u evn spar bro?!" Kindly learn the words you use before using them.

Try reading the thread before you leap in and toss out your two cents.

I've responded individually to the same people and their same "points" (and complete lack thereof) time and time again to be completely ignored and have my posts spammed out by people who can't spell four-letter words and haven't sparred a dozen times this week. I've exhausted the argument. I guarantee that you've yet to read a single one of my extremely long-winded and explanatory posts in the thread, and even if you had you wouldn't be able able to hold much weight in an argument like this because even you seem to be foreign to this discussion. Who are you? Do you spar? You don't think that's a legitimate question? How can you even enter a conversation about something you don't do, don't know the intricacies of, and don't understand?

But, say what you must to get those precious internet karma points that you crave so badly.  

Admittedly I did read the last 2 pages only, and within those last two pages you just made yourself seem like a total prick. If you have nothing further or different to say, then don't? Everyone is allowed their own opinion even if it differs from yours. There is a difference between constructive conversations and arguments and just thinking you are right and everyone else is stupid which seems to be how your thinking is going at the moment.  

He's waiting for his Enguard crew to show, otherwise he can't backup anything he said. It's kind of sad that everyone with a bit of money has the ability to use the internet. Anyways, my point again: Do you see what you did, Thallen? You made this thread into a flamewar, or atleaast a discussion(if you may call this one, because it really isn't one) about another topic, instead of writing about the real question behind this 8 pages of your useless spam, PC Client vs iDevice Client. Here we go, once again.  

Posted by Jester Lapse

Admittedly I did read the last 2 pages only, and within those last two pages you just made yourself seem like a total prick. If you have nothing further or different to say, then don't? Everyone is allowed their own opinion even if it differs from yours. There is a difference between constructive conversations and arguments and just thinking you are right and everyone else is stupid which seems to be how your thinking is going at the moment.

The fact that you think that the discussion that I am representing and speaking on behalf of is a matter of opinion and not a matter of very plainly explaining what the game allows, and is therefore fair, clearly shows that you don't even understand my argument and makes me question why you'd even want to pass judgment on an issue that is apparently very unclear to you.

So I'd like to ask you on your "opinion" on the topic of this thread, since you've chosen to interject and critique one side of it: Can you tell us what you think about iDevice vs. PC sparring, Jester Lapse?  

PC and iDevice sparring is not equal, just as iPad vs iTouch is not. PC Clients suck and lag, skyridder does it a bit better than facebook. PC gives you a better sense of controls whereas on iDevice a simple finger slip could screw you.

I prefer playing any graal server from pc simply because of the advantage of having more view space than even ipad, better controls and easier to type. iOS is less laggy and more suited. They are different, therefor they should remain different spars.

Only reason I think era has not done separate spars on their server is simply because it is impossible to spar from pc there due to lag for the sake of comparing to other servers.  

Posted by Prynce

It's kind of sad that everyone with a bit of money has the ability to use the internet.

Not really...  

Posted by Jester Lapse

PC and iDevice sparring is not equal, just as iPad vs iTouch is not. PC Clients suck and lag, skyridder does it a bit better than facebook. PC gives you a better sense of controls whereas on iDevice a simple finger slip could screw you.

I prefer playing any graal server from pc simply because of the advantage of having more view space than even ipad, better controls and easier to type. iOS is less laggy and more suited. They are different, therefor they should remain different spars.

Only reason I think era has not done separate spars on their server is simply because it is impossible to spar from pc there due to lag for the sake of comparing to other servers.

Great. Now that you've shared your thoughts on which device is the best to spar on, understand the the majority of this thread has nothing to do with that.

This thread is primarily a discussion of iDevice players claiming that sparring from the PC is "unfair." Since you've chosen to go down this route, I'll do the same:

un·fair adjective \ˌən-ˈfer\
Definition of UNFAIR
1
: marked by injustice, partiality, or deception

The word "unfair" is not an opinion word. Please realize that before we progress in this one-on-one conversation. I can have the "opinion" that something is unfair, but fact and extremely basic logic can prove that it is most definitely fair, completely invalidating my "opinion" and causing me to look like an idiot. It's almost like trying to say, "It's my opinion that apples are the color orange." Maybe to your eyes they may look that way because you're misinterpreting the color or you just don't know what you're talking about, but trust me, we can prove that the apple is red.

Graal supports multiple devices for any and every user. It is a constant. It is the same for everyone. That is the very definition of fair.

You seem to be responding more sensibly than GOAT and the others, so let me try to juice more answers out of you:
Do you agree that it is fair for any player to be able to decide what device they want to spar on rather than being forced to select one?

If you answered yes, congratulations! You've just agreed with every single part of my argument. If you answered no, please read this post and reconsider your answer.

I'll be here, eagerly awaiting your reply.