Well, okay 0:. I guess we're all delayers then. Well can anyone explain the showlag/ms then? How come laggers/delayers are usually at 300+ ms while we're all under 100?  

Posted by LiA

Well, okay 0:. I guess we're all delayers then.

To the right person, yes.  

Posted by *Vatec

To the right person, yes.

I didn't finish my sentence Dx.  

Posted by LiA

I didn't finish my sentence Dx.

Then why did you post it lol.

Posted by LiA

Well, okay 0:. I guess we're all delayers then. Well can anyone explain the showlag/ms then? How come laggers/delayers are usually at 300+ ms while we're all under 100?

Because the speed of light is only so fast, the data sent from you to the server is sent at that speed and can only get there so fast. For example I live in Australia, which if you don't know is very far away from the USA, therefore giving me 250-300ms of lag.

There are also other factors such as the amount of traffic going through your connection, that can give you a higher ms, but it's mostly location.  

[QUOTE=*Vatec;304840]Looks like you forgot to quote the few other posts before that one.

I did not criticize your other posts or this entire argument. I criticize your word choice.  

Jesus Christ, stop making these damn threads, there have been like 10 of them already and just end in a flame war because some but hurt loser can't get over a bit of lag. And in the end it solves absolutely nothing.  

Posted by Aaron - Taevin

Looks like you forgot to quote the few other posts before that one.

I did not criticize your other posts or this entire argument. I criticize your word choice.

Oh, in that case then, go ahead, I got nothing against criticism

Posted by MrSimons

Jesus Christ, stop making these damn threads, there have been like 10 of them already and just end in a flame war because some but hurt loser can't get over a bit of lag. And in the end it solves absolutely nothing.

Let's hope this time somebody learns about latency.  

Posted by The Wizard

tried to include all active sparrers, please no bias

This is all your fault.  

Posted by Blueh

Laggers in a nutshell

this

Posted by Comyt

quite the lame thread.

as thallen said, the poll itself is pretty much a popularity contest.

this

Posted by MrSimons

Jesus Christ, stop making these damn threads, there have been like 10 of them already and just end in a flame war because some but hurt loser can't get over a bit of lag. And in the end it solves absolutely nothing.

and this  

Delay=Advantage. Not just sparring, I notice delayers at tower run straight through sword spam, hit you, then walk away undamaged...  

Posted by Rezon

Although it seems as if delayers are hitting you straight on, on their screen they actuallyl aren't. What happens on graal is, if you are lagging, you are constanty sending movements and the server picks them up and re-transmits them at a later time to you. If you are facing a lagger and they hit you, they most likely sent that sword strike a few seconds ago (based on latency). When a delayer is sparring, they're just taking random jabs at air and hope that it hits, as you are as well.



You have no points, and Vatec has done a nice job of taking the words right out of my mouth. I really don't understand why you're completely underanalyzing my posts anyways. Thats why there's really no point in fighting with you. Its like bringing a knife to a gun fight. I have the gun and you're the lunatic with the knife taking random jabs that do nothing.

Yes the delayer has the gun, me with the knife great analogy! And @ everyone saying im just whining and can't adapt no that's not it. Yeah with patience and skill you can beat delayers, did I ever argue against that? No, alls I said was that delayers walk through hits. It doesn't work both ways. @Vatec reread previous posts if you think I have no points. I stated them, all you did was call me a "******" and gave up.  

Posted by GotenGraal

Yes the delayer has the gun, me with the knife great analogy! And @ everyone saying im just whining and can't adapt no that's not it. Yeah with patience and skill you can beat delayers, did I ever argue against that? No, alls I said was that delayers walk through hits. It doesn't work both ways. @Vatec reread previous posts if you think I have no points. I stated them, all you did was call me a "******" and gave up.

Double post lol.

Are you ****ing kidding me?

Posted by GotenGraal

I said was that delayers walk through hits. It doesn't work both ways.

You completely ignored every other post I have said on this thread, no matter what I say you just don't understand. Yes I did call you a ****** and give up, but I gave up because you were too ignorant to realise that delay isn't a one sided thing. Have you ever tried to spar with a delay? Guess not from what you've said so far.  

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...43148975,d.aWc  

Posted by *Vatec

Double post lol.

Are you ****ing kidding me?



You completely ignored every other post I have said on this thread, no matter what I say you just don't understand. Yes I did call you a ****** and give up, but I gave up because you were too ignorant to realise that delay isn't a one sided thing. Have you ever tried to spar with a delay? Guess not from what you've said so far.

What you "think" you experience is nothing compared to the non delayers view.  

Posted by GotenGraal

Yes the delayer has the gun, me with the knife great analogy! And @ everyone saying im just whining and can't adapt no that's not it. Yeah with patience and skill you can beat delayers, did I ever argue against that? No, alls I said was that delayers walk through hits. It doesn't work both ways. @Vatec reread previous posts if you think I have no points. I stated them, all you did was call me a "******" and gave up.

Are you serious? The analogy was based upon your posts and my posts. Learn to read. And honestly, I think Vatec has gained the right to not respond to any of your posts, they're full of bs and have no content.

Read your posts again, look at mine then reflect upon how stupid you're making yourself look. I read this argument over and I honestly felt like I just wasted precious seconds of my life.