Posted by lord greg

Well where to start? Just because it is not inside the territory of a country does not mean it does not concern then.

Its not your territory you have no right to be there, but do tell me what these issues are that concern you.  

Posted by Pazx

I'm choking.



No offence intended, but your entire religion, country and government is a joke.

k .  

Posted by Pazx

No offence intended, but your entire religion, country and government is a joke.

Are you Christian, catholic etc?  

Posted by CourierSix

I didn't choose to be a Muslim I was born one and you can't change or you'll face the death penalty.

I'm starting to see a nice side of you while you're admitting this, which is true.  

Posted by *Dae

They can pick and choose with other religions like Christianity because they've been changed over time whereas Islam is the same as it was 1400 years ago you either accept it in its entirety or you're not a Muslim IMO. But all this extremism and fundamentalism within religions can all simply be solved by at least a half decent education on both sides.

These extremist would have no grounds for holy war if America and Israel were meddling in their issues. The area America singles out for being a terrorist hot spot would be the border of Pakistan and Afghanistan in which the tribes who are far better armed than the Taliban or extremist groups have allowed them to reside there because of American and foreign involvement against their countries. If America were stop its meddling and leave within a short period of time the tribesman would reclaim their land and dispose of those extremist but while America continues its drone attacks there's so chance of that happening, there's is absolutely no way that Muslim countries want to see their own people slaughtered by bombs and extremists on a daily basis because they are forced into "the war on terror" by people like Bush and Obama who threaten them by saying this such as "Either you're with us or against us" the Muslim countries can deal with this problem themselves but America and Israel wish to destabilize these countries for their own gain.

Had anyone even heard of Sunni Shi'ite violence before "the war on terror" such issues were no existent its only when America invaded and constantly pushed their Sunni Shi'ite propaganda and put them against each did such violence occur.

What? There are different versions of islam, and people will always re-interpret religions overtime. If its in their scriptures (which started by word of mouth, super reliable guys!!!) that they can resort to violence to defend their religion then its up to the believer to justify the cause.

USA meddles in the middle east, but the war between Iraq and Iran was fueled by nothing more than the different sects of islam. The USA supported Iraq but Saddam ****ing hated Shia islam. Iran not only defended itself, but pushed into Iraq. The UN then intervened and told Iran to let them be. I do agree in letting them do what they want, though. The world should stop trying to white knight these backwards countries and let things run their course. Some groups will slaughter eachother. It's just a shame that Britain went and modernized so much of it though, only to get kicked out. On the subject of Britain, you do realize England was the worst offender of meddling with everyone's affairs in the middle east, right?

Muslims have been fighting in the name of their god since the birth of their religion and have had no tolerance for other cultures/beliefs. To argue that a true muslim cannot or shouldn't kill is ridiculous considering their prophet was a war general and took part. They use the arguement of "self-defense" but we all know this is bull****. You can spin the "self-defense" card in any direction you want, it's so obvious how this is abused.

Posted by *Rose

when was the last time you met a Muslim and they told you they were gonna plan on hurting people, probably never right?

Where do I even begin with this? My brother's friend of a friend joined a militant muslim group and died in Syria. Good riddance.  

Posted by Crono

What? There are different versions of islam, and people will always re-interpret religions overtime. If its in their scriptures (which started by word of mouth, super reliable guys!!!) that they can resort to violence to defend their religion then its up to the believer to justify the cause.

USA meddles in the middle east, but the war between Iraq and Iran was fueled by nothing more than the different sects of islam. The USA supported Iraq but Saddam ****ing hated Shia islam. Iran not only defended itself, but pushed into Iraq. The UN then intervened and told Iran to let them be. I do agree in letting them do what they want, though. The world should stop trying to white knight these backwards countries and let things run their course. Some groups will slaughter eachother. It's just a shame that Britain went and modernized so much of it though, only to get kicked out.

I'm not going to argue that Islam nowadays isn't very secularised because it is what I'm saying is that it shouldn't be the words have not been changed from when they were revealed there should be no sects just one religion and any sect that does stray from the scripture should not even be classified as Muslims.

The Islamic scriptures are more reliable than that of the other two main monotheistic religions. The Qur'an was written during the time of their prophet under his own supervision but wasn't compiled into a book till later so there really should be no question over its legitimacy.

Posted by Crono

On the subject of Britain, you do realize England was the worst offender of meddling with everyone's affairs in the middle east, right?

Yes I do realise England does as America does and likes to stick their nose where it doesn't belong there should be no foreign country intervening in this issues whatsoever.

Posted by Crono

Muslims have been fighting in the name of their god since the birth of their religion and have had no tolerance for other cultures/beliefs. To argue that a true muslim cannot or shouldn't kill is ridiculous considering their prophet was a war general and took part. They use the arguement of "self-defense" but we all know this is bull****. You can spin the "self-defense" card in any direction you want, it's so obvious how this is abused.

If they weren't being slaughtered on a daily basis by foreign troops then of course the excuse of "self defense" would be bull**** but they are being wiped out to expect no resistance would be beyond foolish.

Posted by Crono

Where do I even begin with this? My brother's friend of a friend joined a militant muslim group and died in Syria. Good riddance.

Never once have I met a Muslim like the ones you speak of all the ones I've met have been very well educated intelligent caring people.  

Posted by Pazx

No offence intended, but your entire religion, country and government is a joke.

If you are unable to see an issue with living under a system where you face death for changing your faith, I have news for you. It seemed to me like CourierSix would prefer not to have been born into his faith.

Posted by *Rose

Are you Christian, catholic etc?

I prefer not to identify as anything in particular.  

Posted by Crono

Where do I even begin with this? My brother's friend of a friend joined a militant muslim group and died in Syria. Good riddance.

Back to where I stated "most but not all Muslims" and also "probably" so it was
pretty much a multiple choice question  

Posted by *Dae

I'm not going to argue that Islam nowadays isn't very secularised because it is what I'm saying is that it shouldn't be the words have not been changed from when they were revealed there should be no sects just one religion and any sect that does stray from the scripture should not even be classified as Muslims.

The Islamic scriptures are more reliable than that of the other two main monotheistic religions. The Qur'an was written during the time of their prophet under his own supervision but wasn't compiled into a book till later so there really should be no question over its legitimacy.

If islam is true to its origins then that makes the whole situation even worse. I think the real arguement here is whether one accepts different interpretations of a religion, and whether it still counts as being part of the religion. Naturally I think it's silly that there's flaws in religions and people choose to be "moderate x" where x = christian, muslim, or jewish.

Posted by Dae

If they weren't being slaughtered on a daily basis by foreign troops then of course the excuse of "self defense" would be bull**** but they are being wiped out to expect no resistance would be beyond foolish.

This isn't a modern thing, they've been doing this since the birth of islam.

Posted by Dae

Never once have I met a Muslim like the ones you speak of all the ones I've met have been very well educated intelligent caring people.

I'm not claiming muslims are like this. The original arguement was that a muslim can kill and still be muslim.

Posted by *Rose

Back to where I stated "most but not all Muslims" and also "probably" so it was
pretty much a multiple choice question

Quite obvious that most people of any religion, culture, or country don't fall into the extremely negative stereotypes. I directly answered your question before, even if it is a rare exception to the norm.  

I'm a vegetarian,people are rude to me all the time cuz I'm different.Just blend into society the way i do and go with the flow.One religion isn't better than another.We are all equal souls.  

I just don't like Veggies/ Vegans who go around telling it to everyone, makes me think they're attention horses to be honest, other than that I don't mind.  

Posted by CourierSix

I just don't like Veggies/ Vegans who go around telling it to everyone, makes me think they're attention horses to be honest, other than that I don't mind.

Lol, horses.  

Veggies! I just wanted to post  

Posted by *Dae

Its not your territory you have no right to be there, but do tell me what these issues are that concern you.

1. Defending the human rights of the people who live there
2. Oil.
3. Securing political interests
4. National security
5. Make the world a better place for the people who live there and everyone else.  

Posted by lord greg

1. Defending the human rights of the people who live there
2. Oil.
3. Securing political interests
4. National security
5. Make the world a better place for the people who live there and everyone else.

Yeah Vietnamese and Iraqis were so happy under the US influence, you're right!
'Murica hell yeah!