Posted by Thallen

K, so here is what a player who is using a minor speedhack looks like in a spar:

The spar is not exactly entertaining, but it's a good one to record because he is sparring a player who is in Japan and delays very badly. This is going to cause him to move around and C-slash a lot, and you'll see what I mean. The video isn't recorded at any amazing FPS, just something I quickly put together as I saw him sparring.

The main difference between knowing someone is speedhacking and assuming someone is speedhacking is the speed at which they can slash. There are a lot of sparrers that seem to have very responsive and clean clients that might make it appear as if they are moving faster than you. Some players move in diagonals a lot and that also makes them appear faster. When someone uses one of these speedhacks, it's ticking up the speed of everything. If you pay attention to how quickly he's able to swing, move, swing, it's very obvious. If you've sparred long enough, even very slight speed increases are clear to the naked eye.

Speedhacking in spars was at one time a big problem on PC Graal, and hopefully it doesn't get blown out of control on here. This idiot is 100% speedhacking and should probably be banned. I've reported him numerous times, and I've actually never seen a single person complain about his speed after losing to him, so that's why I'm posting this here.

This guy is still sparring, and still speedhacking. 2500 total spars, haven't seen him not speedhacking yet. Crazy.  

I wish someone would delete all the off topic posts here. It's an instructional thread rather than a standard chat.  

2 minutes and 19 seconds for a spar?!?! That's why I don't play classic.  

Posted by 99%

2 minutes and 19 seconds for a spar?!?! That's why I don't play graal.

fixt  

maybe he'd like that UN event where you hit each other once... is it called samurai? you have to hit the button faster than the other person  

Posted by rickclops

maybe he'd like that UN event where you hit each other once... is it called samurai? you have to hit the button faster than the other person

SamuraiDuel! Yeah, he's be a pro.  

Posted by Thallen

Here are some of the most significant and useful links on the site:

• Flash Clients - Teaches you some neat tricks with either Flash client to help maximize FPS and minimize your ADD
• Changing Controls - Teaches you how to use a few applications that will allow you to rebind your keys for Graal
• Points System - Helps you understand rating and points if you're interested in sparring for leaderboard positions
• Sparring Facts - Offers a lot of interesting facts about your movement, sword, etc. but please be advised that this data was recorded from PC Graal and some of it could be different on iClassic, nonetheless you know what type of stuff to be aware of

wow doode.

Posted by Thallen

The main difference between knowing someone is speedhacking and assuming someone is speedhacking is the speed at which they can slash. There are a lot of sparrers that seem to have very responsive and clean clients that might make it appear as if they are moving faster than you. Some players move in diagonals a lot and that also makes them appear faster. When someone uses one of these speedhacks, it's ticking up the speed of everything. If you pay attention to how quickly he's able to swing, move, swing, it's very obvious. If you've sparred long enough, even very slight speed increases are clear to the naked eye.

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wow doode. I like how you're soooooo into graal that you even researched and made a website about it ..DEDICATION. DOODE, you could major in Graal Ethics in Uni.

Anyway, i think its good that you actually bother making stuff like that. Some people are good but they feel insecure when sharing tips because they feel like people would outshine them.  

Japanese Graal Spar Guide
http://www36.atwiki.jp/graalonlineclassic/pages/39.html

This guide is brilliant. You'll get the gist of it if you translate the page.  

I'm surprised people actually read useless and sad guides like this lol.  

Posted by Xenthic

I'm surprised people actually read useless and sad guides like this lol.

ya because standing around and circle-jerking with your casual graalian friends isn't sad.  

Posted by Xenthic

useless and sad guides

Elaborate? If you find it to be useless, then it's probably because you're at a level of sparring that is well below where you can benefit from anyone's written advice. It's useful to know most of the things I spent ~an hour collecting and putting together there, and I did it because I'm asked the same things over and over. It's nice to reference people to a URL rather than re-type the exact same thing.

I can't really pinpoint the sad part, but I welcome you to go on if you'd like.  

Posted by Crono

ya because standing around and circle-jerking with your casual graalian friends isn't sad.

Wut? Don't know where you got that from sounds like what you did back in your PC days where classic had like what 7 players (the us crew).  

Posted by Xenthic

Wut? Don't know where you got that from sounds like what you did back in your PC days where classic had like what 7 players (the us crew).

lol he was the one inside the circle doing all the jerking lol  

Posted by Xenthic

Wut? Don't know where you got that from sounds like what you did back in your PC days where classic had like what 7 players (the us crew).

People who stand outside burger refuge and "chat" all day are basically doing that. US quit Classic when it avged ~15 players and went to UN. Nice try at sounding legit though.  

Posted by Thallen

now you can be as good as Thallen

I'd hate to shoot down your ego, but I've never heard of you.