wait a minute tashkin so what you are saying is that we will only get hours if we are being attacked? that makes no sense whats so ever a battle itself to the max takes mostly 30minutes to 45minutes. so would that means that once we are attacked we dont take the bases and just stay in a planet all day wow  

Now their won't be one guid dominating getting like 30 hours a day.  

Posted by Ryan

Now their won't be one guid dominating getting like 30 hours a day.

Yeah but the top hours each day would be like 2 hours. Which is dumb as f...  

Right now, you gain no hours from Showdown, even if you are actively playing and defending showdown. Showdown time should continue to be however long you hold it and are actively defending it, because it is constantly under attack (a new game starts after an old one ends). If for some reason nobody is playing showdown, then just clear the winner. Showdown is an important planet for smaller squads because it allows you to begin collecting hours without needing to have tons of active members, I hope it gets its planet status back...  

Posted by Tunder

Right now, you gain no hours from Showdown, even if you are actively playing and defending showdown. Showdown time should continue to be however long you hold it and are actively defending it, because it is constantly under attack (a new game starts after an old one ends). If for some reason nobody is playing showdown, then just clear the winner. Showdown is an important planet for smaller squads because it allows you to begin collecting hours without needing to have tons of active members, I hope it gets its planet status back...

Now smaller squads have even less of a chance of getting hours. In showdown and in planets. Problems were not addressed in any way, things just went backwards. The management staff is trying to make an example of this. They don't want complaining so they had to prove a point. This is what happens when the wrong people recieve too much power in my eyes.  

Is a very sad day for you baser out there. Lol  

I understand that a major change (such as having planets be permanently in battle mode) would have been tricky, but there are other simple changes to accomplish what this does without breaking the system.

One idea for a temporary fix: make it so that once your squad takes a planet, it holds it for up to 15 minutes, at which point the planet reverts to being owned by nobody and your squad has to "attack" it again. The timer doesn't run while you're defending, and it resets every time you sucessfully fight off an attacking squad. This will mean that a squad can't hold onto a planet unless it actually has members online collecting PvP items and maintaining ownership. With this, the hours could be reverted back to how they used to work, and the dominant squads would have to work harder to gain hours (without it being impossible...)  

We are just testing... all of you need to calm down. Should know by now we don't make changes without testing it first.  

Posted by Tashkin

We are just testing... all of you need to calm down. Should know by now we don't make changes without testing it first.

Testing it makes no sense. If you had common sense you could have seen this coming. Nobody likes this idea, nuff said, change it back.  

Posted by Tashkin

We are just testing... all of you need to calm down. Should know by now we don't make changes without testing it first.

Consider the test failed. This is turning players away from zone.  

16-3-2... Implement the iEra system!  

http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20052
Designed to be like Classic/Era's but different in the way that it is more tactical and 'official'.  

Tbh, I don't really want it to be Era/Classic style since it will require us to recreate the planets. It'll be best to create a new system that can still use the original planets without having make new ones.

A simple idea that would just need a new script will be along the lines of this.

Spoiler

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Making PvP Planets More Equal Idea:
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Have the planets play continuously instead of playing whenever a player inserts a PvP Token. When no squad inserts a PvP token the attackers become a team called "Graalians" and when Graalians own the planet it doesn't gain squad hours. When a game is over a timer is started on 30 seconds to give a squad a chance to insert a PvP Token to change the attackers from Graalians to their squad. After the 30 seconds the planets starts again and loops the steps again.

Instead of having press to join and making the teams more unbalance due to players thinking one squad has more than the other and join that one, we can do it similar to Zone PC. There is a ship that players enter for the teams and can only bring in one player at a time per team. Players who are in the squad of the defender or attack may only enter the ship designated for their team. Other players may enter any of the ships, but if one team has 1 or more players than the other, the player is not allowed to choose that team and have to wait for teams to balance or join the team with less players.
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Scenerio
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Squad A owns all the planets. Graalians have automatic games at Choros, iricia, and Conquest and Squad B has a game against Squad A at Spring. Squad A splits it's forces but mainly concentrates on Choros. Squad B wins Spring and Graalians win Iricia and Conquest but lose at Choros. Squad C then attacks Graalians at conquest and Graalians attack Spring and Choros. Squad C wins and Graalians lost their two games.
Planets:
Spring- Squad B
Iricia- Graalians
Choros- Squad A
Conquest- Squad C
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Second Scenerio
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-Squad A has 12 players and owns all bases with 3 members at each base
-Graalians attack all planets with 2 each at iricia and Choros and 6 each at Spring and Conquest
-Squad A lost Spring and Conquest and change spread players to 6 at Choros and Iricia.
-Graalians composed of 6 members from Squad B and 4 Members of Squad C
-Squad B attacks and wins Iricia with 6 members and 1 Graalian
-Squad C attacks Conquest with Graalians only having 2 players to defend.
Spring- Graalians
Iricia- Squad B
Choros- Squad A
Conquest- Squad C
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Pros
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- Many different squads may own the planets.
- Teams will be often balance
- More games, more people at games, more players join games seeing as there is more players at planets, more players like Zone, more players dedicate to Zone and a higher playercount average
- Token system is still in use
- Chance for smaller squads to own planets.

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Cons
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- Bigger squads have more difficulty gaining hours.
- If no one is attacking a squad can constantly defend Spring and rack up easy gralats from the payout (can be fixed by lessening payouts on mainly Springs, somewhat on Iricia and Choros)
- The game stops when Graalians are defending and no squad is attacking it (Could have Graalians 1 VS Graalians 2 though)

But because you guys are lazy to read this or overwhelm by the Text here is the
TL;DR: Essentially make a system where after each battle there is a 30 second intermissions and than the planets starts up again. Within the 30 seconds a squad can place a PVP Token to make the attacker their squad. If no squad become the attack it become "Graalians" which anyone can just join to attack.

But than you say if anyone can join wouldn't it be too hard for the defender? Well the second part will tell a solution:

Have a system where instead of tapping to join, there is a space ship on each side of the lobby, one for attacker and on for defender. Players enter the spaceship to join one at a time. If one team has 1 or more players, it unables the player to join the greater team to make the teams more even and balance.  

Posted by Tashkin

We are just testing... all of you need to calm down. Should know by now we don't make changes without testing it first.

This "test" just cost zone quite a few players.  

Posted by Rotaruc

This "test" just cost zone quite a few players.

Player count is the same...


Everything is changed back until we can are able to make the bases accessible without needing to be attacked.