Posted by Platinum

People may say this a lot but hire more people! There are many talented levellers, ganiers, artists, and although there aren't many scripters around maybe someone could take time off and teach someone with basic knowledge!

I know I'm a bit late to the party, but "aren't many" is an understatement with scripters, and for the work of ANY of the other staff members to have ANY value whatsoever, you need scripters. Ganis? They need to be scripted into weapons and items. Levels? Not as much, but events need to be scripted, as well as interactions with certain things, such as the ship repair. Artists? Well, a great deal of what they make goes into the ganis for guns/swords/dances/etc, which again, have to be scripted.

Not only that, but consider the fact that Graal uses its own language, which although similar to other languages in aspect, still includes numerous things that can take a great deal of time to learn.

Not only that, but consider how many programmers there are in the world. Then how many of those program video games. That's not a big number. Now consider how many are likely in the Graal community, which already has a minuscule playerbase in comparison to most mmo's.

While I like your idea, I feel like people definitely expect it to happen much faster than it would in reality, even if they think they're being reasonable about the amount of time.

No insult intended, just laying my honest opinion out there.  

Posted by Rotaruc

Tile set was supposed to be a "6 month project"... that's what got everyone hyped. but its looking like a year+ project from what I see.
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The tileset project actually just started about 2 months ago and has been on hold for atleast 2-3 weeks now. We are far from that 6 month mark.

We cannot help that certain people leak information about what is being worked on. This is exactly why we don't want information leaked about anything. It only causes problems because players expect it to be done soon. Which isn't always the case and even at times projects get cancelled. I haven't hyped up any of these projects because I know that they can end up being cancelled. Sadly the leakers don't understand that and just give out the information anyway.  

Posted by Rotaruc

have you seen a volunteer application or list? No. Volunteers don't exist. theres staff and players. "ignored"? not so much. You and your levels have actually gotten attention. And you've received constructive criticism on you're work. just cuz u have been making levels for a while doesn't mean you should be hired. Especially someone like you who constantly complains about it.



Tile set was supposed to be a "6 month project"... that's what got everyone hyped. but its looking like a year+ project from what I see.

Hey! I didn't say I need to work in a while just to get hired... I already bee making levels since I came to graalian forums.. Ya my first attempt was bad but I'm still learning.. You just like to take people badly like me.. It makes my confidence to low that u keep woring it out... And I'm not a show off.. I'm just getting feedbacks on how to make my levels good... Actually, I've been liking my job and I sincerely put my heart to my work not like u, mr. Critique... If anyone hates my level so be it! I'm still making! If you hate it, ignore it, don't comment bad things to it! Instead give me advices than blah blah bad blah blah a four year old can make that blah blah blah! Thats really how you act Rot!  

Posted by Tashkin

The tileset project actually just started about 2 months ago and has been on hold for atleast 2-3 weeks now. We are far from that 6 month mark.

We cannot help that certain people leak information about what is being worked on. This is exactly why we don't want information leaked about anything. It only causes problems because players expect it to be done soon. Which isn't always the case and even at times projects get cancelled. I haven't hyped up any of these projects because I know that they can end up being cancelled. Sadly the leakers don't understand that and just give out the information anyway.

I have one major question. Could we have a tileset memorial to the Shangri-La? Just with a Shawn statue inside?  

Posted by MrSimons

Yes, because it is just so easy to teach a whole team of people how to script, damn why didnt i think of that! Especially when theres only one person who might qualify to teach them that is on the team.

Copy and paste is your best friend.
Seriously though, (just saying I'm no expert on this so don't hate if I get it wrong) couldn't you just copy an existing gun or hat script and paste it on the server using a different file?(if that made sense)  

Posted by Cobalt

I have one major question. Could we have a tileset memorial to the Shangri-La? Just with a Shawn statue inside?

I am sure there will be a section on the map that will be in remembrance of the current iZone.  

Posted by Platinum

Copy and paste is your best friend.
Seriously though, (just saying I'm no expert on this so don't hate if I get it wrong) couldn't you just copy an existing gun or hat script and paste it on the server using a different file?(if that made sense)

I'm not talking about simple things like that, we do have a few staff for that sorta thing, I mean like a whole solid update, which knowing how to copy/paste scripts would do nothing for.  

Am I the only one who doesn't mind the tileset as it is  

Posted by fsh

Am I the only one who doesn't mind the tileset as it is

I don't mind I either.

Posted by Dark Ice Cream

Hey! I didn't say I need to work in a while just to get hired... I already bee making levels since I came to graalian forums.. Ya my first attempt was bad but I'm still learning.. You just like to take people badly like me.. It makes my confidence to low that u keep woring it out... And I'm not a show off.. I'm just getting feedbacks on how to make my levels good... Actually, I've been liking my job and I sincerely put my heart to my work not like u, mr. Critique... If anyone hates my level so be it! I'm still making! If you hate it, ignore it, don't comment bad things to it! Instead give me advices than blah blah bad blah blah a four year old can make that blah blah blah! Thats really how you act Rot!

You're being very immature.. I never said you were a show off or I hate your levels either. I actually gave u advice in your levels thread if I remember correctly. so?... Just gunna let u have ur "moment" I guess.....

Posted by Tashkin

The tileset project actually just started about 2 months ago and has been on hold for atleast 2-3 weeks now. We are far from that 6 month mark.

We cannot help that certain people leak information about what is being worked on. This is exactly why we don't want information leaked about anything. It only causes problems because players expect it to be done soon. Which isn't always the case and even at times projects get cancelled. I haven't hyped up any of these projects because I know that they can end up being cancelled. Sadly the leakers don't understand that and just give out the information anyway.

Oh. well that explains it. thx for the info  

Posted by Tashkin

I am sure there will be a section on the map that will be in remembrance of the current iZone.

Great I really like memorials. They truly tell how important the olden days were.  

Posted by Tashkin

leak
leaked
leakers

staff have to much communication with players/ingame 'friends' most people in development and who are high up(business sense) keep away from that and work to show what they can fully achieve, all these staff who leaked updates over and over really are the ones who inflict self damage into the server, as you said people will expect these updates and players will eventually pass the message onto others  

Posted by Dark Ice Cream

Hey! I didn't say I need to work in a while just to get hired... I already bee making levels since I came to graalian forums.. Ya my first attempt was bad but I'm still learning.. You just like to take people badly like me.. It makes my confidence to low that u keep woring it out... And I'm not a show off.. I'm just getting feedbacks on how to make my levels good... Actually, I've been liking my job and I sincerely put my heart to my work not like u, mr. Critique... If anyone hates my level so be it! I'm still making! If you hate it, ignore it, don't comment bad things to it! Instead give me advices than blah blah bad blah blah a four year old can make that blah blah blah! Thats really how you act Rot!

someone translate.



In any case, iZone will never fully take off without a team that actually wants to get things done. Every time I log on (which is rare) a staff member is hosting events. Why are events still even a focus on iZone if this content that is being made is supposed to change the server? Why not have people hosting events contribute to the project so it gets done faster? It's not like there aren't NPC events being hosted all the time.
Secondly, do you really need a ZP team at all? Developers can easily take care of misbehaving players by reading reports, I did it all the time as GFX Admin -> Developer -> Server Admin. GP's are pretty useless with the player count that you have and in it's entirety, just gives kids a power trip. How many people that have played zone have not been a part of the staff team yet?
The tileset could be done in a month if you had your GFX team focus on it. Zone tilesets (if just talking skyworld, other worlds actually use Zone PC tiles), it's like what? 5-10 different sets? Instead of having your GFX team make hats for events, maybe they should focus on fixing up the server. I have seen the Delteria GFX team which consisted of 4 people knock out a tileset efficiently and quickly. Don't make excuses, you can do it.
The past 10 or so updates to Zone have been things that can be found on other servers or just a VIP item. In fact, zone hasn't had an update that it can call its own content since June 22nd, space slugs. If your player base wanted the content off of other servers, they would play those servers *points at "dolls" and events that are directly from iEra*

I once said I had faith that zone would go somewhere 3 months ago, now I am not so sure. Even with these "big projects" in development, is your team even good enough to complete a big project before you lose your player base? I dunno, but I do find it funny that some people that I do talk to on the staff team have a lack of faith as well.  

Posted by Jester Lapse

someone translate.

"i suck at making levels, but **** you."

i like how things keep changing before they're done. it seems like a good strategy.

Posted by Rotaruc

Not at all. dear god. But unfortunately hes right >.>

Oh my dear idiot, how have you been? You've must of been so lost without me to guide you through your arguments.  

Missed u too cheap hoe.  

Posted by Cobalt

I have one major question. Could we have a tileset memorial to the Shangri-La? Just with a Shawn statue inside?

Posted by Tashkin

I am sure there will be a section on the map that will be in remembrance of the current iZone.

How about having a mountain in which the remnants the skyworld are located after crashing?