Posted by Tyler

It's not that big of a deal since all you need is a guild tag, but there was no point in removing access either. Towers can be used for more than just flag taking purposes.

What can towers be used for other than killing each other with passion?  

Wait, Swamptown Fort always required a guild tag... Access was never removed, it was meant to be a guild activity and therefore upheld a requirement to be part of a team to participate. Been like this since 2010... And honestly, I thought a few others were like this as well. The entire guild fort system is taken advantage of in so many ways that I doubt it even matters anymore... Which brings up the reason why this thread was created.  

Posted by Livid

What can towers be used for other than killing each other with passion?

You just gave the second purpose for them my friend, PK.

Posted by Winter

Wait, Swamptown Fort always required a guild tag... Access was never removed, it was meant to be a guild activity and therefore upheld a requirement to be part of a team to participate. Been like this since 2010... And honestly, I thought a few others were like this as well. The entire guild fort system is taken advantage of in so many ways that I doubt it even matters anymore... Which brings up the reason why this thread was created.

My memory honestly isn't the most reliable so I couldn't say. I know I attacked Snowtown's fort without a guild tag awhile ago which I believe is another tower mentioned in this thread that is locked to guild tags only. I don't see a big problem with this since it only costs 2,000 Gralats to make a guild and attack towers.  

Posted by Tyler

You just gave the second purpose for them my friend, PK.



My memory honestly isn't the most reliable so I couldn't say. I know I attacked Snowtown's fort without a guild tag awhile ago which I believe is another tower mentioned in this thread that is locked to guild tags only. I don't see a big problem with this since it only costs 2,000 Gralats to make a guild and attack towers.

Other than pking what else is there  

Posted by Livid

Other than pking what else is there

Taking the flag and PKing. The two things you can do. I do not group them as one because:

PK
-Purpose: To kill other players.
-Involves a single player acting on his/her own accord.
-The tower is a good place for PKers because of the amount of players gathered in one place as well as being able to take advantage of the chaos.
Tower Taking
-Purpose: To capture the flag and to defend the flag.
-Involves a group of guild members acting on a leaders command (or a person who really thinks they can take a tower by themselves).  

They could just go on any random tag they have and PK you in the fort anyway.  

Posted by Tyler

Taking the flag and PKing. The two things you can do. I do not group them as one because:

PK
-Purpose: To kill other players.
-Involves a single player acting on his/her own accord.
-The tower is a good place for PKers because of the amount of players gathered in one place as well as being able to take advantage of the chaos.
Tower Taking
-Purpose: To capture the flag and to defend the flag.
-Involves a group of guild members acting on a leaders command (or a person who really thinks they can take a tower by themselves).

Althought thats good information, thats the same thing as I said before, so is there really nothing else but those two..  

There are plenty of people begging to recruit people to their guilds. Joining one really isn't that hard. In all seriousness who doesn't have a guild tag? I think the limited access should be left the way it is. There are other towers you can go to that are better for PK if your really hate wearing a tag much.  

its always been like that hasnt it?  

Posted by MrSimons

its always been like that hasnt it?

Yeah, always, but lately I've been questioning some of Classic and other servers' methods. Not wanting change, just asking, "Why?".

Posted by Winter

[...]Which brings up the reason why this thread was created.

Just to ask why. I mean, the thread title says, "Why?" So, y'know.  

Posted by Aaron

Just to ask why. I mean, the thread title says, "Why?" So, y'know.

Well that would make sense. It just somehow also came off as a bit of "we want to have more freedoms" or something to me. Which I wasn't really fond of considering I was brought up to believe it was a guild activity, and should filter out those simply looking to pick fights or annoy the guild something. I guess with very little PKing on the overworld, it would make sense to grant that freedom if the server does desire it. No harm done, don't worry.  

Posted by twilit

Same with Deadwood and Snow fort.
And the 50BK checking guards at castle are so annoying because the server lags and takes forever to get through.

^yes. I find the guards annoying and cause lag as well. Sometimes it seems like you lag alot and take few minutes to get in the castle while other times it seems like you get right through.

Posted by Winter

Well that would make sense. It just somehow also came off as a bit of "we want to have more freedoms" or something to me. Which I wasn't really fond of considering I was brought up to believe it was a guild activity, and should filter out those simply looking to pick fights or annoy the guild something. I guess with very little PKing on the overworld, it would make sense to grant that freedom if the server does desire it. No harm done, don't worry.

You have very good points here,and I completely agree with them. Towering is supposed to be a guild activity but its very often interrupted by pkers and a few random curious noobs. I can see the pkers side to saying that the best pking is at towers normally because that's where there are usually more steady concentration of groups of people.

I have never really been a fan of pking as you don't really get anything out of it. And its some what annoying to me when your trying to take a tower and you have to fight off defenders and pkers at the same time making it even harder. Like she says its a group activity and I think it should be kept as such.  

Posted by Winter

No harm done, don't worry.

Posted by Rufus

This was added before I was staff but who really cares? Like really ...what?

Posted by Dusty

lol, I thought Towers were always guild tag only.

Oh well thanks for the reasons.

If any mod wants to close this thread, let it be, got my use out of this.  

You guys are angry because you can't enter a tower as noob? These poor innocent noobs entering towers ang getting killed from other noobs protecting their tower...
Why is(or was) MoD a pk tower? Because everyone can enter it.

The goal was to put players curious and not leaving the game until they explore everything and at the end, the players stay playing.  

Since they allow players to go in the towers being the only 1 on tag to pk with no real intention of taking the tower or hitting the flag then IMO it shouldn't matter if your on a tag or not. anyways I thought all towers but york required a guild tag? That's how it should be IMO. If you go with my idea posted above at all towers except York then you would still be leaving the 1 tower as a place for people to pk and removing pkers from the other towers for the most part.