Posted by Ghettoicedtea

For god sakes stop letting snk make you all his personal biatchs and allowing him to do whatever he wants. Make him ask before making huge darastic gameplay decisions like this, or making major level changes

Lol, then they would be fired and replaced.

Seriously though Ghetto, why don't you apply? I genuinely mean it, you come across as someone who knows a ****load about guns so you'd benefit iEra greatly.  

When you buy the guns the description precisely says, '100% accuracy'  

Posted by Xraided

Because most of the things they change are better for the staff, worse for the actual players.

The vast majority of changes, bar hirings, don't benefit the staff at all.

Posted by Reece

Lol, then they would be fired and replaced.

Seriously though Ghetto, why don't you apply? I genuinely mean it, you come across as someone who knows a ****load about guns so you'd benefit iEra greatly.

No offense to 'Mr. Ghetto I. Tea', but I don't think anyone, let alone him, can fix the balance catastrophe of guns - specifically due to their pricing. Time and time again, I reiterate: guns wouldn't be hard to balance at all had the in-game "economists" not priced guns 200k Gralats apart.  

Posted by Talon

No offense to 'Mr. Ghetto I. Tea', but I don't think anyone, let alone him, can fix the balance catastrophe of guns - specifically due to their pricing. Time and time again, I reiterate: guns wouldn't be hard to balance at all had the in-game "economists" not priced guns 200k Gralats apart.

nope, i could probaly fix some weapons, but with era and its current gun balance situation, its impossible to balance them without completly reseting all the weapons stats and completly re writing the games combat style.

Posted by Reece

Lol, then they would be fired and replaced.

Seriously though Ghetto, why don't you apply? I genuinely mean it, you come across as someone who knows a ****load about guns so you'd benefit iEra greatly.

First off its pointless since all staff hate me,
second i have no clue to code GS2
third i know not much about spar combat, i would make all the weapons for bases and sparrers would be pissed.  

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM

The thread had already turned hostile after the first post



Well maybe if you want your opinion to be heard actually say it rather than just bashing myself and rec in almost every thread you go to. The PBP is already being looked at as you know since you've seen the thread, and the AC would have been next, if you read the entire thread you would have seen where I explained that just changing a stat isn't something that just happens whenever I feel like it, it takes time because we need permission for touching older guns.

We do say our opinions and jack all gets done about it except some lame excuses. Look at Meph. Everyone knew what he did and he explained all his reasons and answered all questions in a clear way. You and Rec never listen to anything or if you do you rarely respond at all unless you just want to insult people who have an opinion that is different from yours.  

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM

Don't have rights,

WTF you're going to let snk bully you like that? you manage the guns, demand full rights to those scripts.

Posted by lord greg

We do say our opinions and jack all gets done about it except some lame excuses. Look at Meph. Everyone knew what he did and he explained all his reasons and answered all questions in a clear way. You and Rec never listen to anything or if you do you rarely respond at all unless you just want to insult people who have an opinion that is different from yours.

or defend there "honor" that does not exist.  

I think some of you have a deluded view on Sam's job. He doesn't just log on and say
"Gee, today I think I'm gonna make this gun slower!"
His job is making guns fair for their price. If he gets enough complaints regarding a weapon, he will balance it. And even then you have to take into account the difficulty of even miniscule changes to weapons.
Honestly he does a pretty good job at what he does, and if it was as easy as you all make it sound, then all the guns would be balanced, and this thread wouldn't exist in the first place.  

Posted by rorriM

I think some of you have a deluded view on Sam's job. He doesn't just log on and say
"Gee, today I think I'm gonna make this gun slower!"
His job is making guns fair for their price. If he gets enough complaints regarding a weapon, he will balance it. And even then you have to take into account the difficulty of even miniscule changes to weapons.
Honestly he does a pretty good job at what he does, and if it was as easy as you all make it sound, then all the guns would be balanced, and this thread wouldn't exist in the first place.

invalid statement.
PBP still has stack damage
AC is still OP
BAR nerf since p2ks are not supirior to the BAR
L96 is underpowered
GM4 is a tad underpowered for the price
SOCOM is still OP
Assault rifle is underpowered
Muzis underpowered
These are just a few of the things that the community has ranted on and on about yet nothing has been done about it.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

invalid statement.
PBP still has stack damage
AC is still OP
BAR nerf since p2ks are not supirior to the BAR
L96 is underpowered
GM4 is a tad underpowered for the price
SOCOM is still OP
Assault rifle is underpowered
Muzis underpowered
These are just a few of the things that the community has ranted on and on about yet nothing has been done about it.

This is that same deluded viewpoint I said before. If Sam receives legitimate complaints, not just a bunch of whiny kids complaining of how "blah blah I spent 15k on a gun and it isn't as good as a gun that costs 200k blah blah"
And I don't understand why so many people moan about the bar.
200,000
Two hundred thousand
TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND
Let's do math
200,000/27500= just over 7
7x10=70$
If anyone spends 70$ on one pixelated gun, than its gonna be better than your little deagles, get over it.
And besides, bar is beatable, and bar is balanced for its price
I don't even own a bar, and I think it's a fair gun.

All of those so called "issues" with guns are just a load of crap, excluding the note about the assault rifle, which I agree, is underpowered.  

Posted by rorriM

I think some of you have a deluded view on Sam's job. He doesn't just log on and say
"Gee, today I think I'm gonna make this gun slower!"
His job is making guns fair for their price. If he gets enough complaints regarding a weapon, he will balance it. And even then you have to take into account the difficulty of even miniscule changes to weapons.
Honestly he does a pretty good job at what he does, and if it was as easy as you all make it sound, then all the guns would be balanced, and this thread wouldn't exist in the first place.

Do you want to be an admin or are you just blind?

Posted by rorriM

This is that same deluded viewpoint I said before. If Sam receives legitimate complaints, not just a bunch of whiny kids complaining of how "blah blah I spent 15k on a gun and it isn't as good as a gun that costs 200k blah blah"
And I don't understand why so many people moan about the bar.
200,000
Two hundred thousand
TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND
Let's do math
200,000/27500= just over 7
7x10=70$
If anyone spends 70$ on one pixelated gun, than its gonna be better than your little deagles, get over it.
And besides, bar is beatable, and bar is balanced for its price
I don't even own a bar, and I think it's a fair gun.

All of those so called "issues" with guns are just a load of crap, excluding the note about the assault rifle, which I agree, is underpowered.

He was saying about the P2Ks should be better not about making deagles better than it.  

Posted by lord greg

Do you want to be an admin or are you just blind?

Your making an unreasonable generalisation. Just because I agree with an admin doesn't mean I'm kissing his crap as an attempt to get hired

He was saying about the P2Ks should be better not about making deagles better than it.

Reread his post. He was moaning about how bar needs a nerf. My response was not specified to specifically p2ks, I was rather pointing out that bar is gonna be the best no matter what.

Get your facts right before you throw flame  

Posted by rorriM

Your making an unreasonable generalisation. Just because I agree with an admin doesn't mean I'm kissing his crap as an attempt to get hired



Reread his post. He was moaning about how bar needs a nerf. My response was not specified to specifically p2ks, I was rather pointing out that bar is gonna be the best no matter what.

Get your facts right before you throw flame

He wants bar nerfed so the p2ks can be better. I think his demands are reasonable.  

1. It's debatable which is better, as far as sparring goes, p2k are better
2. Why are you asking for bar to get nerfed, and not p2k to get buffed.
3. They won't nerf bar, as it would result in riots and it would be unfair to those who spent the 200k
4. Much more people have bar, and the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few  

Posted by rorriM

Reread his post. He was moaning about how bar needs a nerf. My response was not specified to specifically p2ks, I was rather pointing out that bar is gonna be the best no matter what.

you sir are a class A dumbass. The p2ks deserve to be better than the BAR since its way more expensive. Not only does it cost 200k, but you also have to take the time to get 100,000 kills.  

lol this thread
lol this balancing
lol this pricing

There's no way to properly balance the gun balance/pricing system at its current state without pissing a lot of people off. Had guns been at least remotely close to each other in pricing, then balancing guns would be peachy, to the point where anyone with an inklet of a clue about the gameplay can properly balance the game. The gameplay mechanics of Era are so basic and barebones; it's not the fact that the staff can't statistically balance the weapons in such a barebones game. That's the easy part.

The problem lies with the pricing. After the ridiculously outrageous prices were set on guns such as the likes of the BAR or PBP, you've crossed the event horizon. The point of no return. Nerfing these weapons to bring them in line with the rest of the low- and mid-tier weapons is essentially scamming everyone who previously purchased them, and keepin them in their current state makes the people who can't afford the weapons at a severe disadvantage. I usually don't say this, but...

iEra is a pay to win game at its finest.