CM is so clearly talking about vintage, i'm not even sure about the hat anymore it doesn't appear to be happening, but I can think of some people who have brought the subject of hats up. I think it was to keep away chasers which was mostly successful and keep vintage made up of mostly the same core members, it kind of sucked when they were very close to 5k and people stopped helping and I was alone most of the day  

he isn't, he said he was talking about SCREAM
let's not talk about Vintage, their entire BS strategy has been more stupid and abusive towards players than any  

Posted by Hadi

good finally hat makers have a chance to make a normal ****ing hat. I'm sick of noob guilds getting 1k and asking for a hat that breathes out fire and electricty comes out of eyes and then turns rainbow and wings have to flap and the helmet has to shine. ****ing noobs. Thank you <3

Posted by Fanta

so sad that this was made just to save server space..
you guys are boring and you are getting more boring


stop changing rules and just continue the game

This change is good.  

I hav no problem working hardr fior a hat  

Posted by Blueh

Perhaps if there was some way to 'rate' guilds, or to give them some sort of value that would make people think twice about deleting them or using members as filler. Ways to increase your rating of course would be, guild spar score and tower hours, GST wins maybe, but also the members in your guild, how long they've been in the guild and how consistent they are in being involved in it. I think that should be the largest component of that, just in my opinion. If a guild doesn't have a lot of member consistency, you could probably determine that if you join, there's a chance you might not be there for long. Something simple that makes players want to stick to the guilds their in, instead of chasing incentives.

I actually think this idea would be very good, but I still think incentives are kind of required otherwise half the people in guilds would stop because they don't get a hat. Maybe this "rating" could include things that individuals in the guild do such as spars or pks, as well as gs and towers, wins would increase rating and losses obviously decrease it, all these factors added together would give a good idea of the quality of the guild and it's members.  

Posted by Shirie Kan

I actually think this idea would be very good, but I still think incentives are kind of required otherwise half the people in guilds would stop because they don't get a hat. Maybe this "rating" could include things that individuals in the guild do such as spars or pks, as well as gs and towers, wins would increase rating and losses obviously decrease it, all these factors added together would give a good idea of the quality of the guild and it's members.

What I sort of had in mind was a way to get the right players in the right guilds. There'd still be incentives, and that would help boost a rating (ex: this guild reached 5k, therefore they have a higher rating than a guild at 1k). Players would naturally want to join guilds with higher ratings, which is why I believe loyality and consistency should be the largest component. However, if a guild also has high ratings in other areas, that will show too. The point is not to show which guild is the greatest, that's a matter of opinion, but the best for the individual. Individual ratings would follow suit. If a guild is known for sparring, it will naturally attract good sparers. If a guild is known for towering, PKers and tower takers would join. Just so long as there is many ways to boost their rating (not solely tower and spar I hope), it would help people find guilds they want to join and stay with instead of hopping around, and make creators more intentional on their purpose before creating a guild. Nobody wants to be the owner of a guild with a poor rating. That way you don't have a bunch of dead guilds lying around with two members then they're never used again afterwards.  

Posted by Thallen

he isn't, he said he was talking about SCREAM
let's not talk about Vintage, their entire BS strategy has been more stupid and abusive towards players than any

How is it BS or abusive towards players? Not in a mean defensive way I'm just curious to see why you think of us like that.

Whatever "BS" or "abusive" strategy they supposedly used doesn't really make sense to me, they are actually one of the first guilds to reach 5k in a very, VERY long time. Also, they were successful in warding off hat chasers by not giving out the 1k hat at 1k and waiting until 5k, because by then the only people who would leave would be the true hat chasers, many of us have actually grown close together and formed strong bonds between as all that I don't really think any of the core leaders will be leaving if we still plan on going to 10k.  

You guys gotta stop with the walls of text, you're purging your pen.

On topic: I like the update :>  

We aren't stupid now people they aren't talking about server space and blah blah. they are doing it beacuse people dont know how to make animations corretly and keep having them to fix the issue and the point of making a different set of reward.

which is you get png hat for 1k since it is nothing near 5k so they made 5k animtions hats.

I dont understant why no one got that.

I like this new reward system. and keep wishing about some new reward for 5k. If you dont want to do it dont do it. Let the real tower lovers tower to 5k and beyond.

you are always welcome to keep getting your png 1k hat. maybe it will make you think of a great hat but I hope it isn't some anbu mask this server has to many already  

Posted by Santa Claus

We aren't stupid now people they aren't talking about server space and blah blah. they are doing it beacuse people dont know how to make animations corretly and keep having them to fix the issue and the point of making a different set of reward.

which is you get png hat for 1k since it is nothing near 5k so they made 5k animtions hats.

I dont understant why no one got that.

I like this new reward system. and keep wishing about some new reward for 5k. If you dont want to do it dont do it. Let the real tower lovers tower to 5k and beyond.

you are always welcome to keep getting your png 1k hat. maybe it will make you think of a great hat but I hope it isn't some anbu mask this server has to many already

I know seriously like they can make all the ugly gif shields they want, gifs aren't coming back and that's final. Seriously we have enough electric wings and shining helms and Anbu masks.  

Who cares?

Seriously guys almost all graal players are the ultimate pros at wasting time. This thread is an example in multiple ways.  

Posted by Kendama

Who cares?

Evidently, the girl that made the rage thread that was closed before I was able to post  

Posted by CM CM

electric wings

are there even that many of those
I can only think of Arcanum, not really sure if Unchained counts because the wings were randomly thrown on top of a weird helmet

that's what my last guild asked for, and since I don't personally care for the hat and I feel like they deserve to get what they want, I gave it  

Posted by CM CM

I know seriously like they can make all the ugly gif shields they want, gifs aren't coming back and that's final. Seriously we have enough electric wings and shining helms and Anbu masks.

you do know the players pay for those "ugly" gif shields So why remove that? or even the heads?

1k hats are free just the waste of your own time on it.  

Posted by CM CM

How is it BS or abusive towards players? Not in a mean defensive way I'm just curious to see why you think of us like that.

Whatever "BS" or "abusive" strategy they supposedly used doesn't really make sense to me, they are actually one of the first guilds to reach 5k in a very, VERY long time. Also, they were successful in warding off hat chasers by not giving out the 1k hat at 1k and waiting until 5k, because by then the only people who would leave would be the true hat chasers, many of us have actually grown close together and formed strong bonds between as all that I don't really think any of the core leaders will be leaving if we still plan on going to 10k.

I left vintage because Luna banned me their and I was too scared to go back because idk if she's gonna like ban me if I say a word. It was my first ban too and I didn't know what to do!