Posted by fsh

you people kill my ****ing brain cells by your thoughtless posts

This ^  

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

I just felt like pointing it.



Because half a good portion of the stuff listed IS part of damn-near every other server. Most things exclusive to iEra have already been moved to Zera as well and you can't give me bull**** about Zera being different from iEra because of events when events are part of every server.

You still need tactics in Era. Basing is basing.

The only difference between Era and Zera guns are that you have omni-directional firing, as opposed to fixed directions. Both have low health which causes trouble with balancing, meaning that most guns will only have a /slight/ difference in damage, speed or spread, with very little niche roles to fill.

You're still basing for the same exact thing. Same system, same rewards and same determination to hit a the same goal. The only difference here is that there are more places to accumulate time, so I'll give you that.

You can't really count a bug as being intentional and shouldn't be used as leverage. Ammo runs out fairly quickly if you decide to waste it quickly. Also, I'm pretty sure the bug is to do with trying to compensate for when your clip isn't full. Since it has no reserves (Oh look at that, normal Zone exclusive stuff, yay!) it just auto-reloads, causing you to waste ammo. So now that I think about it, it's not really a bug.

Grenades I'll give you some points then.

Eh, for achievements I'll give half.

ok im going to end this now, comparing izone to iera is like comparing CoD to battlefield. 2 similar games that are entirely different and share some mechanics.  

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

I just felt like pointing it.
The only difference between Era and Zera guns are that you have omni-directional firing, as opposed to fixed directions. Both have low health which causes trouble with balancing, meaning that most guns will only have a /slight/ difference in damage, speed or spread, with very little niche roles to fill.

Stefan didn't like it when Tashkin tried raising it.  

Posted by doodleman171

Stefan didn't like it when Tashkin tried raising it.

Yeah I know. It's ******ed why he thought it was stupid to have higher health. Higher health allows more balancing and variation, but I guess have a clone to grab more money is all he cares for.  

Posted by Bleck3v3

Yes I understand that I've been playing since release and seen how the game has changed. But some features aren't only needed on one server if the shoe fits why not were it

Why not get your own shoe?

Posted by MrSimons

Here is an actual list of things taken specifically from iEra. Keep in mind this is stuff that had been given directly from Era. Nothing else in the game is taken from Era.

Killstreak Level
Trading House
Doll System
Spare Part Collection
Hoverboards (If I recall correctly this has been on iZone since its release)
Various Icons (Most of which have been/are being replaced)
Some older vanity items
6 events (a few of which are just races)
Achievements
Zone Coins (EC)

If you think any of that stuff carries the server, and isn't just excess content (some of which isn't even content and was just dumped onto the server by Stefan) then I feel bad for you, because you obviously haven't properly played the server and aren't looking for anything to enjoy, just stuff to complain about.

Actually, these are not the only things on zone that are directly taken from iEra. You actually need to play iEra before you say these things .  

Oh my f***ing god, why does the trade tables spark so many arguments on Zone? Zone is an individual server from Era, and Era should not be mentioned in this, even if Era does have trade tables and their trade tables came first. Now I feel like this needs to be locked.  

Posted by MrSimons

Dusk Spar
Mech Spar - ( Scripts directly taken from iEras boxing, just different ganis and images used for it)
CTF-(iZone seems to love taking scripts from other servers so what makes you think anything about this is original other than the levels- even the flag image is ripped from another server)
Planets (Technically this is original but its all taken from zone pc eh... Besides.. A lot of servers have basing)
Player Chosen Seasonal Tournaments ( somewhat original..)
Variety of Events( the majority of events on iZone are directly ripped from iEra, including some levels- zones tileset but same layout as ieras versions- and all scripts and ideas)

Ive made some changes to show you. There are actually very few things on zone that are original and produced by the staff team (excluding items that are released for holidays)

Simply put, what were all trying to say is that we want iZone to be iZone. We dont want to play iZone to play iEra... Unfortunately stefan has approved of this reskin server because he loves making easy money so we all just have to deal with it. My question to the staff team of iZone- Why develop a game if youre just going to directly rip content from other games?  

It's not another game tho, it's another server

I mean fair enough you can say why do they keep bringing in updates we've seen from other servers, but that's not the issue, the issue is that now iZone has this stuff, we should hope to see some original iZone content  

Posted by Hi:)

Ive made some changes to show you. There are actually very few things on zone that are original and produced by the staff team (excluding items that are released for holidays)

Simply put, what were all trying to say is that we want iZone to be iZone. We dont want to play iZone to play iEra... Unfortunately stefan has approved of this reskin server because he loves making easy money so we all just have to deal with it. My question to the staff team of iZone- Why develop a game if youre just going to directly rip content from other games?

I'm not really sure what to say at this point, since some people want stuff from Zone PC and some people just don't want anything from any servers, then some people want a bunch of stuff from other servers. Point is, never gonna satisfy everyone.

My opinion? Trade tables were a great thing to implement on zone, public trading makes it much more easy to get what you want, and our max playercount jumped by about 150. As well as our daily average rising by about 80 - 100. Stefan likes it because gralat pack purchases doubled. Hat trading was a great addition for some people, because thats all they want, not a bunch of weird worthless items.

Once more I will say, the iZone dev team has no intentions of us becoming an era reskin. That is absolutely the opposite of what we want, however we think there is nothing wrong with using features that the players like, even if they are from another server. Stefan is doing absolutely development for us, nor is he doing our planning for us, completely uninvolved in development.

So you have no reason to worry about zone becoming a second iEra. If you think iZone already is a second iEra then I'll say again, I feel bad for you, because you really aren't playing the game right.

Thats all I really can say to this topic, or anything "Zera" related. Have a nice day!  

Posted by MrSimons

some people want stuff from Zone PC

DO THIS. Do not rip from iEra or other servers that are not from what the original idea was about, just take from from what was originally there as a server and build from that. I know a lot of people that had high hopes for iZone to be at least similar to Zone PC and relive the glory days, but were crushed when they saw it. Like I've bitched about through most of this thread; trading is the worst thing you could have done to kill the hopes of people.

Posted by Meatman204

Oh my f***ing god, why does the trade tables spark so many arguments on Zone? Zone is an individual server from Era, and Era should not be mentioned in this, even if Era does have trade tables and their trade tables came first. Now I feel like this needs to be locked.

The reason is because it just isn't Zone anymore. Not much of Zone is unique now. Before you had to work for everything (Or use Mommy's credit card for anything non-ZC/EC related) and that was that. Now all you have to do is use Mommy's credit card to get whatever you want.  

Im slowly growing more fond of trade tables since im starting to see a lot of other guns used in combat before that were super rare instead of all ap rippers.  

Posted by Vendetta

Well, they've been closed for the past few days due to some idiots duplicating ZC. This could have completely ruins Zone's economy and also ruined trading altogether. Fortunately they were caught so not too much damage was done but some of the ZC was traded to other players meaning the glitch was taken advantage of, I'm assuming it cannot be traced so any of the duplicated ZC will not be able to be taken back out of the economy. Apparently the people duplicating got away with a small ban, to me this is ridiculous as they could have and would have ruined trading if not caught. If you look at other games such as Runescape they reset and permanently IP ban anyone who duplicates items through glitching, doing this also discourages people from doing the same in the future whereas banning someone for a short period of time does not.

The ZC, from what I understand will be removed for them. But from what I know they did not just get away with a "small ban", they got to spend most of their day helping fix the bug, and there is further punishment, however one of the forum rules is to not talk about in game bans. Just be sure of two things, we won't let them get off easy, and the economy will not be ruined by this.

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Im slowly growing more fond of trade tables since im starting to see a lot of other guns used in combat before that were super rare instead of all ap rippers.

I agree with this, I've seen guns being used recently that I previously didn't even know existed, or that I totally forgot about. Theres also a lot of new hats being used and traded, which is nice having more cool stuff distributed amongst the players, rather than gathering dust in about 20 people's inventory.

I am worried this whole phase will run out soon though so I'm hoping to start a project that will keep this whole "good" phase of trading around a long time. (:  

Posted by kenovo

Sorry hun, but he wouldn't get into much trouble (if any) for simply knowing the glitch. What a poor excuse.

He would've gotten in no trouble whatsoever, that would've actually been the right thing to do. And Shadowfox can you please not support iZone if you are going to be so rude to everyone?  

Posted by Sariss

Is SF still working for iZone? ._.

no.  

PLEASE keep this thread on the topic of players' opinions of the trade tables, rather than the topic of the duplicated Zone Coins. The issue was resolved for the most part, don't derail the thread.