My list of what can be impoved

Cookie Xanadu · 07-25-2014

Alright so I'm bored and I have no doubt that a fair bit of you people are getting annoyed with all of my constant bitching and ranting SO, I've decided that I shall instead make a list of everything I think is ****ing ******ed in iZone and will add suggestions to make it better (if applicable). This will instead give ya'll a break from me showing up in all of your threads and bashing everything and will instead just leave it here for a bit until I get bored again.. We all good? Yeah? Good. Now, I know some of you will oppose a couple or most of my suggestions while agreeing with others. I also know that there will be a few certain individuals that will want to oppose and disagree with everything I post (though I won't point any fingers)
*COUGH*

Spoiler

*COUGH*

Anyways, on with this list.

Pets
Now, I honestly don't understand the purpose of these things at all. Some just absolutely don't mix at all and those would be the GK sprites. All they do is provide clutter and act as a nuisance (especially when people feel like making a long line of around 9 or robots). Since they serve no purpose other than to annoy, why have them? They make Zone less of a war zone and more of social game full of clutter.

Wat do: Remove them. If you must, then refund 1/4 of the price. No sense in having clutter and wasting both time+energy on something as useless as these when it can be put towards something with a purpose.

Jobs
Granted, I know money can be bought with Mommy's credit card and all that jazz, but I still think jobs are fairly unnecessary. Sure they can help people along with gaining better weapons and such if they don't (or can't) afford to buy money, but that's tough luck for them.

My suggestion? Killing gives money. If it already does, then increase the base amount by a small portion. Let players give a good amount of money per kill. I'm not sure if the bounty system is set up or working, but allow players that stay alive and gain kills while on a streak accumulate bounty. As it goes higher the player will be worth more money to kill. It'll give an incentive to get their lazy asses out of OSL and into the battlefield. Don't give the excuse of "well what if players just want to relax?" You're a very bad person

Zone is set in a post apocalyptic future where wars are constant. You need to be on your feet killing to survive, not talking to your eGF or eBF ;)))))).

Trade Tables
These god awful abominations are basically cancer to Zone and do nothing but bring other-wise toxic players onto the server. Something like this is horrendous. Zone shouldn't be about trading and making a living with jobs. Zone should be about killing everyone who opposes you. You earn (or buy with a credit card) your living.

What can be done? Delete the entire center of trade tables and remove the code from the server. Afterwards you should probably do a sweep to see if any anthrax-coated players are still around and remove in accordance with GHSSC. Thank you for your patience and understanding while this thread is removed.

No but seriously, these shouldn't even exist. Trading on Zone in general shouldn't exist. Everything you own is what you earned. Where is this sense of accomplishment now? All you need to do is buy some money and then BAM, you can have everything in the serve with only a few presses of your finger and a good $750 CAD wasted.

Gun Diversity
Now sure, Zone may have a fair bit of weapons that fall some wheres within their price range, but within each range, each gun is damn-near the same. Most differences are only around a .1 - .2 change in speed or a .07 degree increase in variation. This is bland and boring. Then we have melee weapons which swing way too fast and are pretty much all the same thing with some differences in damage. Isn't that exciting?!

You should: Add diversity. Make some guns have high spread and low damage while others fire multiple bullets. Make some act almost like a shotgun with lose or tight spread. Be creative; something different and unique. Have guns actually have a reason to be used when it's outside of the god-tier gun. Give a niche god dammit.

As for melee weapons they should be toned down in speed while given some kind of unique ability depending on the item. Let's take something like the lightsabre for example. It does a good amount of damage and can deflect bullets. However it swings at the speed equivalent to a hobo on bath salts trying to eat your face because he thinks you're a pork sausage. This isn't good. Reflection is nice. It's unique and it allows you an advantage. However, you move the same speed as everyone else and deal insane damage. Change things around and give a reason for other melee weapons to be used.

Now something like the riot shield (Or whatever the hell it's called) on the otherhand. It blocks a lot of damage, but outside of that it's pretty well useless. It should either boost speed to allow you to cover better distance, or slow you down a bit while having an attack added. Just something. Make **** unique and viable to all wealth classes.

Squads

Possibly the most ass-backwards idea of Zone. Good in theory this could have actually been a nice improvement to Zone. Some planets could have been an all-out PK fest with squads all competing against each other for nothing other than kills, money and more blood shed. However, the tradition just /had/ to be followed when it comes to an iOS guild and the idea of it being an actual improvement became an abhorrent nightmare when things such as "time" and rewards were given for guilds that accumulate so much "time." Nearly everything is centered around squads now, which is defeating the whole purpose of a lot of Zone's recycled maps.

What do? Remove the time tracking aspect of guilds. Instead, have it track the total amount of kills the entire group has wracked up per planet or something. Remove rewards and time for the guilds. Revert all planets that allow squads to accumulate time back into the original concept. Two (Some times up to 4 depending on the map) teams competing against each other for the objective. You're forced with the tag of that team and you're unable to change. If you leave the planet then you're stuck with it when you come back until a game ends. Too much **** is focused on small squad-based battles and that just isn't Zone. That's Era's niche. Have these team games award gralats if you /must/ give an incentive.

TL;DR: Remove squads or the notion of time = rewards and instead have planets that have 2-4 static teams that cannot be swapped until the game ends.

Temporary /rant

I'll most likely add more to this as I think about it. Some things I haven't added like player houses and such because they're not that big of a deal.

Come at me bro.

kenthefruit · 07-25-2014

well the robots are being improved on having more features, so i can assure you they won't be removed

Edit: read the entire thing and almost everything here won't happen. the only thing I agree on is gun diversity.

Toxic · 07-25-2014

Posted by kenovo

well the robots are being improved on having more features, so i can assure you they won't be removed

Edit: read the entire thing and almost everything here won't happen. the only thing I agree on is gun diversity.

Nice faith.

kenthefruit · 07-25-2014

Posted by Toxic

Nice faith.

Thanks! I like to call it being realistic

MrSimons · 07-25-2014

Pets: not gonna be removed, players enjoy them way too much, any problems with them should be fixed rather them being dropped.
Purposes Players have found for them/Staff have implemented:
Unique Furniture Items - Some players have put them in their houses and used their functions to make word/number games. As well as using hats to make them interesting decorations.
Bomb Spar - ... need I explain?
and you would not believe the ****-storm that players would start if robots were refunded for less than 100% and how pissed Stefan would be if they were refunded at all, let alone removed

Jobs:
Killing other players does give bounty, maybe it could be raised, but I think this was gonna happen before but Stefan said no so sux.

Trading Tables:
If you dont like them dont use them? I cant see what your problem with them existing is.

Gun Diversity:
I dunno, can't say much because I've really never had a problem with weapons, but I think having more diverse weapons would be cool so that there isn't a "best gun".

As for your little spoiler I don't dislike most of your ideas on what should be added to the server, I just don't understand why you think certain things should be removed when you can just ignore them. It just seems really selfish when a large portion of the player base enjoys it.

Another thing you seem to not understand is that iOS Graal is a social game, not like PC Zone, and if some of these changes were made for a very short portion of time you would feel very alone on the server as the playercount slowly drops till the game isn't profitable and Stefan removes it from the app store.

TL;DR: most of that wont be done because Stefan won't allow it.

Joshua · 07-25-2014

Yo Cookie, This is what I'm gonna send at you.

Pets
Zone is a Social Game, Its not like all wars and stuffs like that, so having pets around is OK. If the owners want to let them act like a nuisance,let them be,its they who are wasting both time and energy anyways.

Jobs
You might have forgotten about the restoring health bug by killing yourself with an explosive or non-player character which will reset the Bounty. Players who mostly do this are mostly Streakers. Second, if jobs are removed, you'll be expecting to see more players on the PK-Zone with AP Rippers, spamming and killing those that are weaker than them, especially new players. Let me focus on the word I just said, New Players, you didn't even think about them only having a ER Beamer and a Knife as a starter weapon, and when Killing is the only job, they will be at a huge disadvantage.

I got not much to say about Trading Tables, so I ain't gonna comment on that.
For Gun Diversity, I'll leave that to GIT (Ghettoicedtea)

Stratus · 07-25-2014

Pets: I like pets but they're way too odd looking. I think most of the pets need a new look. Also, Zone should add some new functions to add some enjoyment to them because right now they're kind of useless

Something I would like to see implemented:Morphs. I think it would be cool if you were able to turn into a medium sized mech morph outside of start and buildings. It would give Zone a really cool atmosphere

Tashkin · 07-25-2014

Like kenovo said said... the only thing I agree with is gun diversity. The rest you don't have to do if you don't want to. This server isn't here just to please you or a few of you. This server is here to grow and give everyone something to do. Just because it's a gun server doesn't mean players should be forced to PK. Not everyone enjoys doing that so get over it. It's not going to change and complaining about it will not doing anything. This is not just a game it's a business as well. I am just being realistic here so don't get your panties in a bunch when u read this. x.x

As for the gun diversity I have already been creating new features since that gun topic on here has been discussed a lot. New features like poison, paralyze, shooter dmg, etc. This should help give much more diversity to the guns.

Ghettoicedtea · 07-25-2014

Im going to agree with all of this, but stefan wont allow it because no refunds and the ****storm simmons stated would happen and i know i would be a part of it. But no, what needs to happen is to get this server back to a bases competitive server. Not this huehuehue sit in start all day and jabber to friends all day server. I get so pissed off when i think how zone repeated the exact same mistakes as era and pleased the social community and said lol this aint no gun pk server anymore. Only thing that really needs work is gun balancing that i am working on in the overhaul (even though it wont be implemented).

Ryan · 07-25-2014

Shout out to all snowmen pets on zone named Olaf

fsh · 07-25-2014

bomb spar...

kenthefruit · 07-25-2014

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Im going to agree with all of this, but stefan wont allow it because no refunds and the ****storm simmons stated would happen and i know i would be a part of it. But no, what needs to happen is to get this server back to a bases competitive server. Not this huehuehue sit in start all day and jabber to friends all day server. I get so pissed off when i think how zone repeated the exact same mistakes as era and pleased the social community and said lol this aint no gun pk server anymore. Only thing that really needs work is gun balancing that i am working on in the overhaul (even though it wont be implemented).

Era seems to be doing pretty good, so I doubt there's any issue there

MrSimons · 07-25-2014

Posted by kenovo

Era seems to be doing pretty good, so I doubt there's any issue there

They actually don't care how well the server does, hell the server could be dead and they wouldn't care as long as things went their way.

Rufus · 07-25-2014

I would personally like to see the 'robots' changed overall to be robot pets, not bomies. It is my one and only gripe with Zone.

R o g u e · 07-25-2014

Posted by MrSimons

They actually don't care how well the server does, hell the server could be dead and they wouldn't care as long as things went their way.

YES Mr.Simon lets start war with them now
Zone vs Era

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Cookie Xanadu Uguu~ Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Canada, NS Posts: 1,046	My list of what can be impoved Alright so I'm bored and I have no doubt that a fair bit of you people are getting annoyed with all of my constant bitching and ranting SO, I've decided that I shall instead make a list of everything I think is **ing ***ed in iZone and will add suggestions to make it better (if applicable). This will instead give ya'll a break from me showing up in all of your threads and bashing everything and will instead just leave it here for a bit until I get bored again.. We all good? Yeah? Good. Now, I know some of you will oppose a couple or most of my suggestions while agreeing with others. I also know that there will be a few certain individuals that will want to oppose and disagree with everything I post (though I won't point any fingers) COUGH* Spoiler MrSimons seems to do this quite often. He has his opinions and that's okay... but he seems like a real Negative Nikki COUGH Anyways, on with this list. Pets Now, I honestly don't understand the purpose of these things at all. Some just absolutely don't mix at all and those would be the GK sprites. All they do is provide clutter and act as a nuisance (especially when people feel like making a long line of around 9 or robots). Since they serve no purpose other than to annoy, why have them? They make Zone less of a war zone and more of social game full of clutter. Wat do: Remove them. If you must, then refund 1/4 of the price. No sense in having clutter and wasting both time+energy on something as useless as these when it can be put towards something with a purpose. Jobs Granted, I know money can be bought with Mommy's credit card and all that jazz, but I still think jobs are fairly unnecessary. Sure they can help people along with gaining better weapons and such if they don't (or can't) afford to buy money, but that's tough luck for them. My suggestion? Killing gives money. If it already does, then increase the base amount by a small portion. Let players give a good amount of money per kill. I'm not sure if the bounty system is set up or working, but allow players that stay alive and gain kills while on a streak accumulate bounty. As it goes higher the player will be worth more money to kill. It'll give an incentive to get their lazy asses out of OSL and into the battlefield. Don't give the excuse of "well what if players just want to relax?" You're a very bad person Zone is set in a post apocalyptic future where wars are constant. You need to be on your feet killing to survive, not talking to your eGF or eBF ;)))))). Trade Tables These god awful abominations are basically cancer to Zone and do nothing but bring other-wise toxic players onto the server. Something like this is horrendous. Zone shouldn't be about trading and making a living with jobs. Zone should be about killing everyone who opposes you. You earn (or buy with a credit card) your living. What can be done? Delete the entire center of trade tables and remove the code from the server. Afterwards you should probably do a sweep to see if any anthrax-coated players are still around and remove in accordance with GHSSC. Thank you for your patience and understanding while this thread is removed. No but seriously, these shouldn't even exist. Trading on Zone in general shouldn't exist. Everything you own is what you earned. Where is this sense of accomplishment now? All you need to do is buy some money and then BAM, you can have everything in the serve with only a few presses of your finger and a good $750 CAD wasted. Gun Diversity Now sure, Zone may have a fair bit of weapons that fall some wheres within their price range, but within each range, each gun is damn-near the same. Most differences are only around a .1 - .2 change in speed or a .07 degree increase in variation. This is bland and boring. Then we have melee weapons which swing way too fast and are pretty much all the same thing with some differences in damage. Isn't that exciting?! You should: Add diversity. Make some guns have high spread and low damage while others fire multiple bullets. Make some act almost like a shotgun with lose or tight spread. Be creative; something different and unique. Have guns actually have a reason to be used when it's outside of the god-tier gun. Give a niche god dammit. As for melee weapons they should be toned down in speed while given some kind of unique ability depending on the item. Let's take something like the lightsabre for example. It does a good amount of damage and can deflect bullets. However it swings at the speed equivalent to a hobo on bath salts trying to eat your face because he thinks you're a pork sausage. This isn't good. Reflection is nice. It's unique and it allows you an advantage. However, you move the same speed as everyone else and deal insane damage. Change things around and give a reason for other melee weapons to be used. Now something like the riot shield (Or whatever the hell it's called) on the otherhand. It blocks a lot of damage, but outside of that it's pretty well useless. It should either boost speed to allow you to cover better distance, or slow you down a bit while having an attack added. Just something. Make ** unique and viable to all wealth classes. Squads Possibly the most ass-backwards idea of Zone. Good in theory this could have actually been a nice improvement to Zone. Some planets could have been an all-out PK fest with squads all competing against each other for nothing other than kills, money and more blood shed. However, the tradition just /had/ to be followed when it comes to an iOS guild and the idea of it being an actual improvement became an abhorrent nightmare when things such as "time" and rewards were given for guilds that accumulate so much "time." Nearly everything is centered around squads now, which is defeating the whole purpose of a lot of Zone's recycled maps. What do? Remove the time tracking aspect of guilds. Instead, have it track the total amount of kills the entire group has wracked up per planet or something. Remove rewards and time for the guilds. Revert all planets that allow squads to accumulate time back into the original concept. Two (Some times up to 4 depending on the map) teams competing against each other for the objective. You're forced with the tag of that team and you're unable to change. If you leave the planet then you're stuck with it when you come back until a game ends. Too much is focused on small squad-based battles and that just isn't Zone. That's Era's niche. Have these team games award gralats if you /must/ give an incentive. TL;DR: Remove squads or the notion of time = rewards and instead have planets that have 2-4 static teams that cannot be swapped until the game ends. Temporary /rant** I'll most likely add more to this as I think about it. Some things I haven't added like player houses and such because they're not that big of a deal. Come at me bro. Last edited by Cookie Xanadu; 07-27-2014 at 02:00 AM.

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kenthefruit 🍇🍏🍋🍊🍒 Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4,330	well the robots are being improved on having more features, so i can assure you they won't be removed Edit: read the entire thing and almost everything here won't happen. the only thing I agree on is gun diversity.

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MrSimons :) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: no. Posts: 10,309	Pets: not gonna be removed, players enjoy them way too much, any problems with them should be fixed rather them being dropped. Purposes Players have found for them/Staff have implemented: Unique Furniture Items - Some players have put them in their houses and used their functions to make word/number games. As well as using hats to make them interesting decorations. Bomb Spar - ... need I explain? and you would not believe the ****-storm that players would start if robots were refunded for less than 100% and how pissed Stefan would be if they were refunded at all, let alone removed Jobs: Killing other players does give bounty, maybe it could be raised, but I think this was gonna happen before but Stefan said no so sux. Trading Tables: If you dont like them dont use them? I cant see what your problem with them existing is. Gun Diversity: I dunno, can't say much because I've really never had a problem with weapons, but I think having more diverse weapons would be cool so that there isn't a "best gun". As for your little spoiler I don't dislike most of your ideas on what should be added to the server, I just don't understand why you think certain things should be removed when you can just ignore them. It just seems really selfish when a large portion of the player base enjoys it. Another thing you seem to not understand is that iOS Graal is a social game, not like PC Zone, and if some of these changes were made for a very short portion of time you would feel very alone on the server as the playercount slowly drops till the game isn't profitable and Stefan removes it from the app store. TL;DR: most of that wont be done because Stefan won't allow it.

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Joshua Yawn Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 361	Yo Cookie, This is what I'm gonna send at you. Pets Zone is a Social Game, Its not like all wars and stuffs like that, so having pets around is OK. If the owners want to let them act like a nuisance,let them be,its they who are wasting both time and energy anyways. Jobs You might have forgotten about the restoring health bug by killing yourself with an explosive or non-player character which will reset the Bounty. Players who mostly do this are mostly Streakers. Second, if jobs are removed, you'll be expecting to see more players on the PK-Zone with AP Rippers, spamming and killing those that are weaker than them, especially new players. Let me focus on the word I just said, New Players, you didn't even think about them only having a ER Beamer and a Knife as a starter weapon, and when Killing is the only job, they will be at a huge disadvantage. I got not much to say about Trading Tables, so I ain't gonna comment on that. For Gun Diversity, I'll leave that to GIT (Ghettoicedtea) Last edited by Joshua; 07-25-2014 at 07:38 AM.

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Stratus Rest is for the living Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: The United States Posts: 612	Pets: I like pets but they're way too odd looking. I think most of the pets need a new look. Also, Zone should add some new functions to add some enjoyment to them because right now they're kind of useless *Something I would like to see implemented:*Morphs. I think it would be cool if you were able to turn into a medium sized mech morph outside of start and buildings. It would give Zone a really cool atmosphere

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Tashkin The Tashkin Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 740	Like kenovo said said... the only thing I agree with is gun diversity. The rest you don't have to do if you don't want to. This server isn't here just to please you or a few of you. This server is here to grow and give everyone something to do. Just because it's a gun server doesn't mean players should be forced to PK. Not everyone enjoys doing that so get over it. It's not going to change and complaining about it will not doing anything. This is not just a game it's a business as well. I am just being realistic here so don't get your panties in a bunch when u read this. x.x As for the gun diversity I have already been creating new features since that gun topic on here has been discussed a lot. New features like poison, paralyze, shooter dmg, etc. This should help give much more diversity to the guns.

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Ghettoicedtea (☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞ dank meme ☚(ﾟヮﾟ☚) Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Utah Posts: 5,261	Im going to agree with all of this, but stefan wont allow it because no refunds and the ****storm simmons stated would happen and i know i would be a part of it. But no, what needs to happen is to get this server back to a bases competitive server. Not this huehuehue sit in start all day and jabber to friends all day server. I get so pissed off when i think how zone repeated the exact same mistakes as era and pleased the social community and said lol this aint no gun pk server anymore. Only thing that really needs work is gun balancing that i am working on in the overhaul (even though it wont be implemented).

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Ryan Verified ✔️ Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 6,041	Shout out to all snowmen pets on zone named Olaf

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fsh floating on Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: GraalOnline Zone Posts: 3,422	bomb spar...

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Rufus Registered rufp4 Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 3,378	I would personally like to see the 'robots' changed overall to be robot pets, not bomies. It is my one and only gripe with Zone.