You are looking at it from the wrong perspective. We don't want to punish hat chasers, we want to eliminate what allows people to milk the system. Bring back real competition to towering. Balance the playing field so it isn't all about just getting a 1k hat. Introduce better rewards. Stop saying it doesn't affect the gameplay because it DOES. How about you try going past 1k without a bunch of hat chasers. Look how hard it has become.

Btw, you must be angry mashing your keyboard, because I have never ever ever ever ever said anything about setting up scripts to limit leaders from leading multiple guilds. wtf are you even talking about  

Posted by Kendama

We don't want to punish hat chasers, we want to eliminate what allows people to milk the system.

"They are milking the system by doing something that I am able to do, but I choose not to for my own personal reasons."

Posted by Kendama

Bring back real competition to towering.

"Towering is not competitive (an opinion), yet it is as active as it has ever been."

Posted by Kendama

Balance the playing field so it isn't all about just getting a 1k hat.

"It's bad for people to want to tower for a hat, because I say it is. Therefore, it is unbalanced."

Posted by Kendama

you try going past 1k

"Do something that you don't want to do or have to do, because it's how I want people to tower."

Posted by Kendama

Look how hard it has become.

"Towering the way I want to tower has become hard because no one who towers right now wants to tower the way that I do. Therefore, the rules should be changed to accommodate me rather than them."

Am I looking at it from the right perspective now?
The worst part of your argument is the fact that nothing is stopping you from towering the way you want to tower right now, but you feel the need to complain about everyone else freely choosing to tower the way that they want to. What is actually wrong with you?  

Posted by Craftz1

'friends' lol. I didn't think anyone liked that guy and they just stuck with him for hats.

i think the core of that crew was pretty tight(as far as graal standards go). I didnt interact with them, so im not sure.  

Posted by Thallen

"They are milking the system by doing something that I am able to do, but I choose not to for my own personal reasons."


"Towering is not competitive (an opinion), yet it is as active as it has ever been."


"It's bad for people to want to tower for a hat, because I say it is. Therefore, it is unbalanced."


"Do something that you don't want to do or have to do, because it's how I want people to tower."


"Towering the way I want to tower has become hard because no one who towers right now wants to tower the way that I do. Therefore, the rules should be changed to accommodate me rather than them."

Am I looking at it from the right perspective now?
The worst part of your argument is the fact that nothing is stopping you from towering the way you want to tower right now, but you feel the need to complain about everyone else freely choosing to tower the way that they want to. What is actually wrong with you?

I never said I was not in a hat chasing guild. I am in Bon Voyage which is a knockoff 1k guild. I hate the fact that I have to do this in order to be on equal grounds as other 1k hat guilds. I feel the fact that a guild is past 1k should not be a handicap, but something that is rewarded.

And chill with the insults, it just makes you look more uptight and no-lifed than you already are. Can't you have a civil debate without throwing out all these vulgar terms and unnecessary jabs?  

Pretty sure making the rewards 2.5k,5k,10k would completely get rid of recycled guilds. So it is rather possible from an implementation stand point. Rather than making a new 2.5k guild, they'll just continue their current guild to 5k.  

Posted by Fire Surge

Pretty sure making the rewards 2.5k,5k,10k would completely get rid of recycled guilds. So it is rather possible from an implementation stand point. Rather than making a new 2.5k guild, they'll just continue their current guild to 5k.

I actually never thought about it like that. I think it would be a great idea to stop guilds from recycling. Didn't some staff member somewhere say it wouldn't be changed though?  

Posted by Fire Surge

Pretty sure making the rewards 2.5k,5k,10k would completely get rid of recycled guilds. So it is rather possible from an implementation stand point. Rather than making a new 2.5k guild, they'll just continue their current guild to 5k.

I hate this idea out the ass.

This is a good way to get guilds to 5k but the fact that they will just have to do the same amont of hours of getting the first mark is dumb.

The other guilds that hit 5k had to do 4k without a reward for it.
This is why I dont like this way of thinking.

But the system wont work with changing the leader board to 10 or 50. Hat Monkeys will just be Hat Monkeys.  

When you think about it, the 2nd 2.5k is more rewarding than the first. Since you only get a PNG hat for the first but a GIF hat for the second. I don't think the 6 or 7 guilds that actually went to 5k should be thought of for an update that will change every other guild.  

Surge, that is like 5-6 people running a a marathon, only to find out after they completed it the finish line was reduced for everyone else.

You just don't do that.  

Posted by Colin

Surge, that is like 5-6 people running a a marathon, only to find out after they completed it the finish line was reduced for everyone else.

You just don't do that.

How does it affect them? They got 5k already and a hat. And it isn't like the newer guilds have an advantage. They still have to get to 5k.  

They are getting the extra reward at 2.5k, these guilds tasked the journey of 5k to symbolize something, now you're trying to take that away, this is the stupidest idea I have heard.

"Let's stop hat chasers by making them get 5k! But make sure to reward them after another 1.5k so they get a hat and don't stop doing it!"

Y'all need to loosen up and start enjoying the damn game, this doesn't affect you at all.  

Posted by Colin

They are getting the extra reward at 2.5k, these guilds tasked the journey of 5k to symbolize something, now you're trying to take that away, this is the stupidest idea I have heard.

"Let's stop hat chasers by making them get 5k! But make sure to reward them after another 1.5k so they get a hat and don't stop doing it!"

Y'all need to loosen up and start enjoying the damn game, this doesn't affect you at all.

They want it so you have to go to 2.5k take out the 1k thing.

But I still find it stupid to change it to 2.5k  

Posted by Santa Claus

They want it so you have to go to 2.5k take out the 1k thing.

But I still find it stupid to change it to 2.5k

But wouldn't you have one of the most biased opinions out there when it comes to this topic?  

Posted by Kendama

But wouldn't you have one of the most biased opinions out there when it comes to this topic?

I am just like any other leader. Everyone has a say on this but I disagree with this idea.  

Colin, what you're saying is really stupid. Current guilds with 1k would need to tower 1.5k more hours to get another hat. CURRENTLY, they can tower 1k hours with a new guild and get another hat.

New guilds would get a the same rewards as old guilds for reaching 5k, just at different intervals.