PC controls

Christopher · 08-02-2014

So I started playing this server on pc, i find that the controls should be improved. instead of having to click all the menus and stuff there should be set buttons for this

Wolfie · 08-02-2014

no.

Godoco · 08-02-2014

Why would we want to go back to change the controls when most PC servers are dead anyways. #RIPpc2014

Wolfie · 08-02-2014

Posted by Godoco

Why would we want to go back to change the controls when most PC servers are dead anyways. #RIPpc2014

The most players Era or UN gets is at least 60 or 70 these days. Sometimes lower. But yeah. They're dead. Now there's only 20 years old people on there talking about life.

Kapoa · 08-02-2014

Stay away from the passage to graal city many pkers are there waiting on people of low ex.

Pc users faster turns are used better when more concentrated

is it cool

the admins on the game are awesome the ques they have are the best!!!

twilit · 08-03-2014

Posted by Godoco

Why would we want to go back to change the controls when most PC servers are dead anyways. #RIPpc2014

What are you talking about? The OP means playing GraalOnline Classic (quote, "this server") on PC (via FB, or classic.graalonline).

OT: ya a set button to open/close the menu, use of arrow buttons, and another button to select, would be handy.

Dusty · 08-03-2014

Last time I set it so Q would also close the menu it was removed :/

edit: This would be something that would probably be worth looking into, but at the same time probably wouldn't work out quite as smoothly as you originally plan. The biggest issue I can think of is:

1) Documentation. How would we tell these players that they can actually use various keys for shortcuts?
2) Customization, or lack thereof. The more keys we add, the more players will probably want to customize them. That opens a whole different can of worms... We'd have to sit and create an interface meant for swapping keys and input, and then plug them all into whatever systems actively use them. I don't even know to what degree that can actually be done, because of the way the input systems are scripted.

kenthefruit · 08-03-2014

I feel like opening and closing messages would be best. O for open and C for close?

Demrow · 08-08-2014

Would be nice if you had the options for messages to appear automatically instead of clicking them and then fade into a transparent screen that lights back up when your cursor is over it. There are still quite a few PC users. If Stefan didn't kill the pc server by neglecting it and charging monthly fees it might not be as dead as it is. Plus a server that allows both pc and Idevice will always be more popular than a just pc or just Idevice.

Sicx · 08-09-2014

i use pc..

4-Lom · 08-09-2014

hotkeys for furniture controls, plz!

MrSimons · 08-09-2014

Posted by Dusty

Last time I set it so Q would also close the menu it was removed :/

edit: This would be something that would probably be worth looking into, but at the same time probably wouldn't work out quite as smoothly as you originally plan. The biggest issue I can think of is:

1) Documentation. How would we tell these players that they can actually use various keys for shortcuts?

Maybe add an NPC at Balamb that guides you through keyboard shortcuts or something? Or if classic has a guide, like zone and era do it could be put there. But I don't think it does so maybe it would be a good time to add it.

Guide Menu used on Zone and Era:
http://gyazo.com/0f17773918f46cd98ccc056bd3690be1.png (Unsupported image host)

2) Customization, or lack thereof. The more keys we add, the more players will probably want to customize them. That opens a whole different can of worms... We'd have to sit and create an interface meant for swapping keys and input, and then plug them all into whatever systems actively use them. I don't even know to what degree that can actually be done, because of the way the input systems are scripted.

If it can't be done I guess the best thing would be to not do it? I think better hotkeys are really something that should be done, whether they can be customized or not.

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Crono · 08-09-2014

Posted by Christopher

So I started playing this server on pc, i find that the controls should be improved. instead of having to click all the menus and stuff there should be set buttons for this

I've always said that everytime you have to use your mouse on Graal it's a fail in design. The only exceptions are **** like F3 F7 F8 menus, basically anything that's not gameplay.

MisaChan · 08-09-2014

Lazy people these days.

Winter · 08-09-2014

I think for the iPhone Classic server, the mouse was meant to emulate the touch screen on mobile devices. Being more trouble than it seems worth, straying from the native may not be ideal. This is coming from someone pretty used to hotkeys and shortcuts.

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Christopher Classic Player Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 334	PC controls So I started playing this server on pc, i find that the controls should be improved. instead of having to click all the menus and stuff there should be set buttons for this

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Wolfie Terra Branford Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Next to you Posts: 3,284	no.

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Godoco Coder Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 901	Why would we want to go back to change the controls when most PC servers are dead anyways. #RIPpc2014

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Dusty Should be fixed. Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,359	Last time I set it so Q would also close the menu it was removed :/ edit: This would be something that would probably be worth looking into, but at the same time probably wouldn't work out quite as smoothly as you originally plan. The biggest issue I can think of is: 1) Documentation. How would we tell these players that they can actually use various keys for shortcuts? 2) Customization, or lack thereof. The more keys we add, the more players will probably want to customize them. That opens a whole different can of worms... We'd have to sit and create an interface meant for swapping keys and input, and then plug them all into whatever systems actively use them. I don't even know to what degree that can actually be done, because of the way the input systems are scripted. Last edited by Dusty; 08-03-2014 at 03:44 AM.

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kenthefruit 🍇🍏🍋🍊🍒 Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4,330	I feel like opening and closing messages would be best. O for open and C for close?

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Demrow Guest Posts: n/a	Would be nice if you had the options for messages to appear automatically instead of clicking them and then fade into a transparent screen that lights back up when your cursor is over it. There are still quite a few PC users. If Stefan didn't kill the pc server by neglecting it and charging monthly fees it might not be as dead as it is. Plus a server that allows both pc and Idevice will always be more popular than a just pc or just Idevice.

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Sicx Registered Sarcastic User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: ⓝⓞ Posts: 1,015	i use pc..

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4-Lom Registered Old Person Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Graal City Restaurant Posts: 4,742	hotkeys for furniture controls, plz!

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MisaChan Banned Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Under your Bed Posts: 670	Lazy people these days.

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Winter & Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: napping Posts: 1,381	I think for the iPhone Classic server, the mouse was meant to emulate the touch screen on mobile devices. Being more trouble than it seems worth, straying from the native may not be ideal. This is coming from someone pretty used to hotkeys and shortcuts.