The only thing worth trading, is money. An option to donate gralats or transfer gralats would be great. I sometimes want to help a nub out when they beg for money to buy a horse that's only 2.5k... I feel like farming for them, but so lazy. I'd rather donate gralats by transfering them in some way. Please add this to graal.  

make it so non identified acounts cannot donate to other players so their wont be any boosting in that  

Posted by Hikaru

The only thing worth trading, is money. An option to donate gralats or transfer gralats would be great. I sometimes want to help a nub out when they beg for money to buy a horse that's only 2.5k... I feel like farming for them, but so lazy. I'd rather donate gralats by transfering them in some way. Please add this to graal.

If money is tradable, I can do pyrat quest on my main and alts and transfer all my money on to my main.
If money is tradable, people are gonna make a thread saying why can't we trade our hats and items?
If money is tradable, we are gonna have beggers all day and night asking for gralats, and scams.
If money is tradable, we are gonna have bunch of fake friends, and possibly gralats go around on whoever's birthday.

Instead of giving away free money, encourage them to do pyrat quest. I have a real life friend did what I told her to do and she has like 40k right now.  

Posted by Zetectic

If money is tradable, I can do pyrat quest on my main and alts and transfer all my money on to my main.
If money is tradable, people are gonna make a thread saying why can't we trade our hats and items?
If money is tradable, we are gonna have beggers all day and night asking for gralats, and scams.
If money is tradable, we are gonna have bunch of fake friends, and possibly gralats go around on whoever's birthday.

Instead of giving away free money, encourage them to do pyrat quest. I have a real life friend did what I told her to do and she has like 40k right now.

Staff can make an trade blocked for same ip accounts.
Hats and items are not worth trading, especially when I worked hard to get them.
No? You decide whether you want to give someone money or not, if I donate money I'm not expecting anything in return.  

Posted by Hikaru

Staff can make an trade blocked for same ip accounts.

If staffs block the same ip address for trading - then people would be complaining how they can't give their money to brother or sister.

Hats and items are not worth trading, especially when I worked hard to get them.

hats and items are not worth trading? I am not sure if I interrupt this sentence correctly, but money-wise, old people wants to sell some of their old items for more money and newer people wants to buy old items for high price.

No? You decide whether you want to give someone money or not, if I donate money I'm not expecting anything in return.

Yes, you have full control of ur decision. Aguzo I can see you helping out noobs. That's really great, but as soon as money is tradable. The value of money will drain insanely and people are going to beg/scam/do whatever it takes them to get more money. Money thirsty community.
You don't have to expect anything in return, but they will. They want more free stuff. More easy money.

It's not you I am talking about, it's those people who beg around during the Christmas for gifts. They will do the same.

If I said it once, I probably said this 100th times. Runescape is so much ahead of trading system. I always see people asking for money.

Allowing any kind of trading is horrible. They earn their own money. There's easy way (pyrat quest). Graal made it for you.
There's plenty of reason why this shouldn't be added rather than it should be.



If this game allows trading, you can expect few things to happen
- Feedback and Report section will be full stories of scam, hack and full of corruption. Classic has to hire more volunteered Graal Polices.
- Appearance of Chinese Farmers and illegal trading websites (if this games gets really big). Then Classic has to read more ban appeals.
- Value of the gralats decreases. Then Classic will just make items more expensive.
- Tower hats, GST hats, Event hats, people will try to buy them with gralats. Full of explosion of corrupted community.  

Posted by Zetectic

If staffs block the same ip address for trading - then people would be complaining how they can't give their money to brother or sister.


hats and items are not worth trading? I am not sure if I interrupt this sentence correctly, but money-wise, old people wants to sell some of their old items for more money and newer people wants to buy old items for high price.


Yes, you have full control of ur decision. Aguzo I can see you helping out noobs. That's really great, but as soon as money is tradable. The value of money will drain insanely and people are going to beg/scam/do whatever it takes them to get more money. Money thirsty community.
You don't have to expect anything in return, but they will. They want more free stuff. More easy money.

It's not you I am talking about, it's those people who beg around during the Christmas for gifts. They will do the same.

If I said it once, I probably said this 100th times. Runescape is so much ahead of trading system. I always see people asking for money..

The reason christmas is the way it is is because for once their is some sort of trading system and players want to take advantage of it to get alot of gifts

If a system of trade is put in the game as a regular thing players will adapt to it and nobody will go crazzy for a gift.
Players already bg for gralat its not going to change the amount beggers.  

Posted by Sardon

The reason christmas is the way it is is because for once their is some sort of trading system and players want to take advantage of it to get alot of gifts

If a system of trade is put in the game as a regular thing players will adapt to it and nobody will go crazzy for a gift.
Players already bg for gralat its not going to change the amount beggers.

just normal a day and normal thing in rs.
if graal adds free trade, or even money trade.
people will do crazy stuff no matter of the day or time.

admins will have to deal with scammers all day and night.
+ 500 cry babies begging for money and tell me how they had 1m gralats in the past got hacked/scammed.  

How about just letting loot display boxes have permissions?  

Hasnt Classic got enough christmas scams?  

Posted by Hugop

Hasnt Classic got enough christmas scams?

There's fresh noobs to scam every year. It keeps getting better. The secret Santa did partially stop the scamming.

But to go back on topic, I don't see many advantages in trading versus non-trading.  

I feel if trading were to be added, it should only be for consumable items such as food, loot, bugs, or party items. No hat, mount, or morph trading.  

Someone will end up duping and ruining the server.  

I wouldn't trade for anything, since it took time to get my hats and items.  

I don't see any good reasons for not adding a trading system to the game. There will always be scams, always are in every mmo with one. I don't see how a trading system would decrease the rarity of old items. It's not a duplicating system, the amount of the item on the server would stay the same. Any problems in the trading system would all be caused by a players stupid decision.  

Posted by Thallen

I can name about 50 reasons, but I know it'll be a waste of time.

One of the main ones that you can consider is how easy it would be to manipulate. What would you be able to trade? Items? Are you wanting staff to make special exceptions for GST or event items? Seasonal items? Hats? What about GST hats? Tower hats? Seasonal hats? If no to all of them, then's the point? If yes:

• I can manipulate the rewards system in towering by giving many to noob accounts to trade later
• I can turn the GST into a boring joke (more than already)
• I am no longer excited for seasonal events, and the little excitement they provide anyway, because I can just get everything at a later time

And so on, etc.

The only purpose I see a trading system would serve is to give players things they don't deserve. I feel like the integrity of towers, spars, and seasonal stuff should remain limited to the people who were actually a part of it. If not, they end up losing all meaning and it becomes boring as hell.

I agree with this post a lot. Some things I would like to contribute though...

• Items don't lose value with a trading system, there will always be the same amount of a certain item even with trade. The only thing that would change when a rare item is traded is its meaning. It no longer becomes AS SPECIAL as it was when it was released, because 5 other people before you have had and used it, plus you didnt actually do anything to earn it, so no one gives a damn that you have it.
  
• Scamming will not be an issue. If trading is done correctly (like it currently is on Era and Zone), then there is no way any person with a functioning set of eyes can get scammed.
  
• Trade may not be as exciting as you think. I could see most of the items you like being cut out of the trade system. Tower Hats, GST Hats, VIP items, probably some select items that staff don't feel should be traded.
  
• This could throw events back into a wrong direction if event items were to be allowed to be traded. As the guild ET proved, it is very possible for a select group of players to win all of the events. Now that there is a trade system and players can give hats they won from events, they can win the same event prize multiple times and participate as much as they want. Making the whole awful ET mess that was going on possible. So should event hats not be tradable either?
  
• How much could you really trade? currently purchasable items and seasonal items. Is a trade system really worth it at that point when most items in the game aren't ideal for trade?