Posted by Dusty

And not everyone who plays Graal finds NOT being able to PK as fun. It's a two sided coin. If you don't like it, go inside where you're safe.

I enjoy pking, seeing as Graal city is a place full of people who do not, i think it would be nice to leave it the way it is. I'm 100% fine with them adding pk zones to other places.  

Posted by Yephenpeace

Not everyone who plays Graal finds pking fun.

I wouldn't consider this "fun" or even "socializing" really..  

If you read what they're saying, most of them are just relaxing or asking to role play. If that's how they want to play graal, than why not? Essentially there was a reason they removed the ability to pk everywhere, it was far too hectic with this number of people. If these people wanted to pk they wouldn't be standing in Graal city.  

Posted by Yephenpeace

If you read what they're saying, most of them are just relaxing or asking to role play. If that's how they want to play graal, than why not? Essentially there was a reason they removed the ability to pk everywhere, it was far too hectic with this number of people. If these people wanted to pk they wouldn't be standing in Graal city.

You can't even read half of the things that are being said in that level, even with nicknames turned off. In addition to this it lags almost everyone that needs to walk through it. Neither of these things are very game-friendly, but you seem to be ignoring that nobody (aside from NiTe) has advocated pking everywhere anyway, only on the world map. There's a TON of houses that facilitate socialization around Graal City, such as the Burger Refuge, the Bank, Zols Pub, and the 20 other houses around that area that aren't even visited. If these people want to socialize then they can go do that. However, like you said yourself, this is a game. Socialization is not a gameplay feature, while player killing is, and it's not something that would be removed by decreasing the amount of no-pk zones on the world map. I really don't see an issue.  

There's a large amount of people who treat this game as a social MMO. To those people, socializing is a gameplay feature. There's a large amount of people who pk on a daily basis and treat it as a gameplay feature, and nothing is stopping either from doing so. Opening more pk zones is a great idea, and my comments were obviously directed towards the people who wanted everywere to be an open pk zone. All i'm saying is that the areas that are mostly occupied by people who are socializing or being afk should remain the same.  

Posted by Yephenpeace

There's a large amount of people who treat this game as a social MMO. To those people, socializing is a gameplay feature. There's a large amount of people who pk on a daily basis and treat it as a gameplay feature, and nothing is stopping either from doing so. Opening more pk zones is a great idea, and my comments were obviously directed towards the people who wanted everywere to be an open pk zone. All i'm saying is that the areas that are mostly occupied by people who are socializing or being afk should remain the same.

You are still ignoring that socialization is not removed by making the entire world map a PK zone..  

Posted by Rufus

You are still ignoring that socialization is not removed by making the entire world map a PK zone..

But it's limiting the amount places you could do so.  

Posted by Yephenpeace

But it's limiting the amount places you could do so.

And you're limiting the amount of places a PKer can enjoy how they play. What's the difference?

A good roleplayer can roleplay anywhere, a PKer can't really pick and choose where they can PK.  

Posted by Yephenpeace

There's a large amount of people who treat this game as a social MMO. To those people, socializing is a gameplay feature. There's a large amount of people who pk on a daily basis and treat it as a gameplay feature, and nothing is stopping either from doing so. Opening more pk zones is a great idea, and my comments were obviously directed towards the people who wanted everywere to be an open pk zone. All i'm saying is that the areas that are mostly occupied by people who are socializing or being afk should remain the same.

They can afk in houses and socialize there it would put some use in the MANY empty unvisited levels in graal so it wouldnt really limit where they can afk AND they just recently added donuts to burger refuge, what's the point if all of graal city is no pk.No point in healing if your not Going to die if u exit the burger refuge  

Reading this thread is funny to me for two reasons. Half the people that advocate new pk zones, I remember saying they liked classic more than era cuz you can socialize and era is more pk. Another point I find a bit funny is the fact that this is only just now being realized. I agree with rufus that more PK zones would add to the "game" feature, and would increase the use of buildings that are always empty. But also there has to be some balance. People play classic for different reasons. Some take towers. Some spar. And when they get bored of all that, they use graal as a social game. It kinda turns into a Facebook with your own little character. :p I guess what I'm saying is I agree, but take into account that there will be many people who oppose this idea.

Posted by EP

They can afk in houses and socialize there it would put some use in the empty unvisited levels in graal AND they just recently added donuts to burger refuge, what's the point if all of graal city is no pk.No point in healing if your not Going to die if u exit the burger refuge

Burger refuge selling doughnuts -.-, *facepalm*  

Posted by Jester Lapse

Reading this thread is funny to me for two reasons. Half the people that advocate new pk zones, I remember saying they liked classic more than era cuz you can socialize and era is more pk. Another point I find a bit funny is the fact that this is only just now being realized. I agree with rufus that more PK zones would add to the "game" feature, and would increase the use of buildings that are always empty. But also there has to be some balance. People play classic for different reasons. Some take towers. Some spar. And when they get bored of all that, they use graal as a social game. It kinda turns into a Facebook with your own little character. :p I guess what I'm saying is I agree, but take into account that there will be many people who oppose this idea.

I completely agree with you!

Limiting the safe zones to indoors would annoy a large amount of people, including me. It isn't just "role players" who like to hangout in safe zones every now and then. There's not much else i can say without sounding like a broken record. There's a reason the whole map isn't a pk zone still.  

Posted by Jester Lapse

Reading this thread is funny to me for two reasons. Half the people that advocate new pk zones, I remember saying they liked classic more than era cuz you can socialize and era is more pk. Another point I find a bit funny is the fact that this is only just now being realized. I agree with rufus that more PK zones would add to the "game" feature, and would increase the use of buildings that are always empty. But also there has to be some balance. People play classic for different reasons. Some take towers. Some spar. And when they get bored of all that, they use graal as a social game. It kinda turns into a Facebook with your own little character. :p I guess what I'm saying is I agree, but take into account that there will be many people who oppose this idea.

Era honestly isn't the same as Classic. There are literally flying bullets (that are spread out) and explosions that are going off EVERYWHERE on Era and it is a hassle. We're not going to get the same thing here, because we don't have that style of PKing.

All I see on a daily basis on Classic are people that play Graal because it's a game, and don't treat it like a Facebook. These same people however are socializing, they're in the spars, they're at towers, they're in guilds, and they're making friends whilst playing the game. They are not standing in Graal City asking people to rate their guild pictures.

What do you think the general consensus on Classic would be if asked? Would people rather have new weapons, such as the boomerang and trident, and be able to actually use them on people, or would they prefer to sit and try to talk in Graal City? I'd like to think it's the first.  

Posted by Rufus

Era honestly isn't the same as Classic. There are literally flying bullets (that are spread out) and explosions that are going off EVERYWHERE on Era and it is a hassle. We're not going to get the same thing here, because we don't have that style of PKing.

All I see on a daily basis on Classic are people that play Graal because it's a game, and don't treat it like a Facebook. These same people however are socializing, they're in the spars, they're at towers, they're in guilds, and they're making friends whilst playing the game. They are not standing in Graal City asking people to rate their guild pictures.

What do you think the general consensus on Classic would be if asked? Would people rather have new weapons, such as the boomerang and trident, and be able to actually use them on people, or would they prefer to sit and try to talk in Graal City? I'd like to think it's the first.

Adding new weapons would change the game style entirely and would motivate people to start PKing. As an Ex-Classic player, I was into guild sparring and the tower taking, but eventually it just got redundant and boring. With the addition of new and more exciting weapons that would change it and add a "spark" if you will. And I compare it to era because era has NonPk zones, but they are spread out and rare. Maybe classic could adopt this.  

Posted by Jester Lapse

Adding new weapons would change the game style entirely and would motivate people to start PKing. As an Ex-Classic player, I was into guild sparring and the tower taking, but eventually it just got redundant and boring. With the addition of new and more exciting weapons that would change it and add a "spark" if you will. And I compare it to era because era has NonPk zones, but they are spread out and rare. Maybe classic could adopt this.

I want to PK right now, but I've got to travel from Graal City to Swamp Town in order to do it. Even then, I'm just harassing innocent newbies who are trying to farm around there. That is why I made this thread.  

Posted by Yephenpeace

I completely agree with you!

Limiting the safe zones to indoors would annoy a large amount of people, including me. It isn't just "role players" who like to hangout in safe zones every now and then. There's not much else i can say without sounding like a broken record. There's a reason the whole map isn't a pk zone still.

But everything that's added is immediately turned into a no-pk zone-.- even north graal is almost all no pk even though it's utterly empty.They even spread the no pk zone of graal city below the welcome sign below the bridge to the entrance of swamp that seems like an exaggeration don't ya think? I'm pretty sure there weren't ppm trying to afk or socialize there....