Posted by Taru

ibreezy i dont get you ? you complained about that we made guns better then melees aka only buffed the guns damage and now you come me with better guns isnt that what we just did yesterday??

And making guns better right now to compete with melees will end up in making Bar and miniguns since those 45hs melees and 20k gp melees have no freeze and 9 dmg

I do not recall complaining about better guns, the guns were higher damage, but they were the same thing due to the 100hp. They were actually worse, since you doubled the damage, and -1. I think you should make better guns, and see how it works. Make a good gun, givie out to people for a FAIR price, not like era, and see how people react. If everyone has a bar, im sure they would be happy. On era, i cannot get a bar, who has 200k$ or wants to spend that much on itunes? If everyone can get the gun they like. They are happy. What drives people away from era is the P2W.  

In my opinion, everything should stay the same, except maybe base HP, and guns should be buffed. But let's be honest, people are gonna be mad no matter what desicion the admins make...you can't please everyone :/  

Everything was put back to normal aside from 100 Base Flag HP.  

everyone with a bar that would even mess whole pk thing up basically its all about who spams the most or what ever.  

Ugh, More hs weapons¿ I can't even win one event and they wanna make even more¿ A little love for those who do jobs too ya know  

Well lol the same ppl always win i guess those ppl just want new stuff which is more stronger which i am definetly not a fan of since the 45hs are actually pretty easy to obtain  

I wish there were more ways to earn HS when you are not good at events.  

Thats why you should get them from bot events or from skills  

Posted by Belak

Thats why you should get them from bot events or from skills

I like this idea, maybe like every level you go up on a skill, that is a multiple of ten you get a horseshoe.  

Posted by Taru

everyone with a bar that would even mess whole pk thing up basically its all about who spams the most or what ever.

Taru. You basically want a server like classic. A bow that has same stats. Everyone must be skilled there right! Go to classic maybe? You need to improve the guns. As a gunsmith your job IS to improve them. I am not asking for a gun that is flamethrower fast, just better guns than these now. Make the best gun be like the m4 On era, and make it A expensive hs gun, or expensive gralat gun. And let that be the "OP" of west. As for your horseshoes comments, horseshoes do take time to earn. Whoever wins that many horseshoes deserves the best type of weapons, due to how hard it actually is to earn them. I do not see you with a staff also, so how come if it's so easy, why don't you have one? A bow? Dual Rons? Not as easy as it sounds. Heck, afking in a base for 20k gp is easier. So try saying something about gang point staffs. Just saying though, make better guns than there is now, but do not let them be like the bar. An m4 stats gun would be perfect for Ol'West. That should be as far as OP west should go for.  

Posted by Alpho

Everything was put back to normal aside from 100 Base Flag HP.

What about 75 Base HP instead 100 it takes long to destroy the base against the rusher.  

Posted by iBreezy

Taru. You basically want a server like classic. A bow that has same stats. Everyone must be skilled there right! Go to classic maybe? You need to improve the guns. As a gunsmith your job IS to improve them. I am not asking for a gun that is flamethrower fast, just better guns than these now. Make the best gun be like the m4 On era, and make it A expensive hs gun, or expensive gralat gun. And let that be the "OP" of west. As for your horseshoes comments, horseshoes do take time to earn. Whoever wins that many horseshoes deserves the best type of weapons, due to how hard it actually is to earn them. I do not see you with a staff also, so how come if it's so easy, why don't you have one? A bow? Dual Rons? Not as easy as it sounds. Heck, afking in a base for 20k gp is easier. So try saying something about gang point staffs. Just saying though, make better guns than there is now, but do not let them be like the bar. An m4 stats gun would be perfect for Ol'West. That should be as far as OP west should go for.

Classic is irrelevant; we could say the same thing to you and ask you to go to era if you want more powerful guns. Ol'West has guns and a whole new gameplay experience compared to both Classic and Era, that's why it's so unique.

And the idea in most games is to avoid making anything OP at all  

Posted by Clown

Classic is irrelevant; we could say the same thing to you and ask you to go to era if you want more powerful guns. Ol'West has guns and a whole new gameplay experience compared to both Classic and Era, that's why it's so unique.

And the idea in most games is to avoid making anything OP at all

The point i am trying to make is, if we all have equally matched guns it requires skill. Everyone has said Ol'West guns are balanced. So if they make higher damaged guns, that are attainable, every player can be easily matched and need skill in order to kill that other player. In era, it is you either pay them real money, or your done for.  

Posted by iBreezy

The point i am trying to make is, if we all have equally matched guns it requires skill. Everyone has said Ol'West guns are balanced. So if they make higher damaged guns, that are attainable, every player can be easily matched and need skill in order to kill that other player. In era, it is you either pay them real money, or your done for.

Actually I'm perfectly fine on era....I spar with dual Uzi's and have a positive spar KD....I even won a spar tournament using them at events, so your not technically done for, U just need skill.  

Posted by iBreezy

The point i am trying to make is, if we all have equally matched guns it requires skill. Everyone has said Ol'West guns are balanced. So if they make higher damaged guns, that are attainable, every player can be easily matched and need skill in order to kill that other player. In era, it is you either pay them real money, or your done for.

That literally made no sense.