The big problem with anime

Sardon · 08-26-2015

Warning this is one of those threads I go on about something

I can usualy get into anything
im usualy not too picky with tv shows I get into stuff fast.

though I cannot stand reading subtitles.
Critisize me as much as you want but
why do we have these subtitles

Popular animes receive A Lot of money
They obviously have much much more than enough to pay for translations
So that their anime can be in english french and spanish, german,portugese ect.

I understand for as to why they do not want to change how we read a manga but why not hire voice actors to play the translated roles in an anime.
Like in pokemon

The people who made sword art online or full metal alchemist are drowning in cash yet wont spend a penny to get voice actors.

Also can you weaboos list some animes that actualy have an english version?

Keeluah · 08-26-2015

Posted by Sardon

The people who made sword art online or full metal alchemist are drowning in cash yet wont spend a penny to get voice actors.

wat? they have english dubs for these two.

Japan does not focus on creating English dub for their series since majority of their money comes directly from Japan. Most studios really do not bother much with foreign countries. However studios in America, namely funimation, works to dub most popular series and have recently reached out towards ongoing shows as well. Just go to the Funi site http://www.funimation.com/videos/episodes and change the language to Dubbed (idk y is it not just english instead) in the search function.

Reasons to why people listen to Subbed is that 1. there is more series. 2. The way each voice is originally portrayed comparative to a English remake. 3. Japan has more pride in their VA so the quality of work is much better compared to America.

Livid · 08-26-2015

Posted by Keeluah

wat? they have english dubs for these two.

Japan does not focus on creating English dub for their series since majority of their money comes directly from Japan. Most studios really do not bother much with foreign countries. However studios in America, namely funimation, works to dub most popular series and have recently reached out towards ongoing shows as well. Just go to the Funi site http://www.funimation.com/videos/episodes and change the language to Dubbed (idk y is it not just english instead) in the search function.

Reasons to why people listen to Subbed is that 1. there is more series. 2. The way each voice is originally portrayed comparative to a English remake. 3. Japan has more pride in their VA so the quality of work is much better compared to America.

couldnt have said it better myself.

Bram- · 08-26-2015

Stop watching anime,nerds

Distorted_P2P · 08-26-2015

Posted by Bram-

Stop watching anime,nerds

I'd say 75% of the people who use Graalians watch anime buddy. I think the General Anime Thread has the second most replies behind the Last Comment Wins thread.

Talon · 08-26-2015

Despite you being on my ignore list due to the fact that I think you're just a humongous troll, I'll bite on this one because of how ridiculous this is.

You know how poorly Japanese translates into English? As someone fluent in both, and someone who has seen shows in both their dubbed and subbed versions, one of the major problems in dubbed anime does not lie with the voice actors themselves, but with the lines they're forced to read since the original message has to be skewed and tortured in its translation to English to even somewhat resemble what the characters on-screen are saying. Watch any Zero scene from Code Geass. Then watch it dubbed in English. The problem isn't with the voice actors.

Yeah, sure. The studios can also reanimate the show to fit a more natural English tone, but why would a Japanese-based studio go through all that trouble to please a very, very, very small minority of American viewers that prefer dubs (I'll guesstimate at 2%) - and the only viewers that prefer dubs are the ones who aren't really invested in anime at all, much less driven to the point of spending money on it. The exceptions? Pokemon, Naruto, Dragon Ball Z, and Yu-Gi-Oh. Real quick - tell me to the audience that these relatively decent dubs cater to.

As such, they don't really give half of a **** about what some uninvested Americans think about their show, and as a result, quality dubs will probably never be a priority so get over it or stop watching.

kenthefruit · 08-26-2015

You've angered the anime community, Sardon, run.

Nep · 08-26-2015

Sardon, dub is ****. End of story.

Albie · 08-26-2015

I like dub because I'm lazy and can't be bothered to read subtitles.

Sardon · 08-26-2015

Posted by kenovo

You've angered the anime community, Sardon, run.

Ive stepped in the wrong waters.

Posted by Albie

I like dub because I'm lazy and can't be bothered to read subtitles.

me too

Posted by Bram-

Stop watching anime,nerds

hentay is better than anime

Posted by Talon

Despite you being on my ignore list due to the fact that I think you're just a humongous troll, I'll bite on this one because of how ridiculous this is.

You know how poorly Japanese translates into English? As someone fluent in both, and someone who has seen shows in both their dubbed and subbed versions, one of the major problems in dubbed anime does not lie with the voice actors themselves, but with the lines they're forced to read since the original message has to be skewed and tortured in its translation to English to even somewhat resemble what the characters on-screen are saying. Watch any Zero scene from Code Geass. Then watch it dubbed in English. The problem isn't with the voice actors.

Yeah, sure. The studios can also reanimate the show to fit a more natural English tone, but why would a Japanese-based studio go through all that trouble to please a very, very, very small minority of American viewers that prefer dubs (I'll guesstimate at 2%) - and the only viewers that prefer dubs are the ones who aren't really invested in anime at all, much less driven to the point of spending money on it. The exceptions? Pokemon, Naruto, Dragon Ball Z, and Yu-Gi-Oh. Real quick - tell me to the audience that these relatively decent dubs cater to.

As such, they don't really give half of a **** about what some uninvested Americans think about their show, and as a result, quality dubs will probably never be a priority so get over it or stop watching.

Im not trolling when im saying I am not a big fan of android and I preffer apple devices.

Nibbles · 08-26-2015

Sigh i loved anime and i stopped becuz i watched every anime

SouthernZombie* · 08-26-2015

I'll go pray for you, brb.

GlazeyB · 08-26-2015

why is he still allowed to post

he contributes nothing to anything.

Admiral · 08-26-2015

Dub has its place for the few shows, but its rlly not worth it over sub

I enjoyed watching Bleach in dub, u should try that

twilit · 08-26-2015

- If you cant read subtitles, youre fkn lazy and probably illiterate.
- Anime production studios really dont make a ton of money. It cost a lot of money to produce any type of TV show, and the money they make barely covers those expenses. Many anime studios only survive by selling merchandise through licensing. Others go bankrupt.
- Anime studios are under no obligation to make their own English/French/etc versions of their shows.
-That's why there's a such thing as fan dubs.

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SouthernZombie* 0.0 Join Date: May 2015 Location: Destiny Posts: 1,235	I'll go pray for you, brb. Last edited by SouthernZombie; 08-26-2015 at 03:29 PM. Reason: Good luck!*

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Sardon Deus Vult Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Le Canada Posts: 3,811	The big problem with anime Warning this is one of those threads I go on about something I can usualy get into anything im usualy not too picky with tv shows I get into stuff fast. though I cannot stand reading subtitles. Critisize me as much as you want but why do we have these subtitles Popular animes receive A Lot of money They obviously have much much more than enough to pay for translations So that their anime can be in english french and spanish, german,portugese ect. I understand for as to why they do not want to change how we read a manga but why not hire voice actors to play the translated roles in an anime. Like in pokemon The people who made sword art online or full metal alchemist are drowning in cash yet wont spend a penny to get voice actors. Also can you weaboos list some animes that actualy have an english version?

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Bram- Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Belgium Posts: 870	Stop watching anime,nerds

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Talon don't call it a comeback Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 8,268	Despite you being on my ignore list due to the fact that I think you're just a humongous troll, I'll bite on this one because of how ridiculous this is. You know how poorly Japanese translates into English? As someone fluent in both, and someone who has seen shows in both their dubbed and subbed versions, one of the major problems in dubbed anime does not lie with the voice actors themselves, but with the lines they're forced to read since the original message has to be skewed and tortured in its translation to English to even somewhat resemble what the characters on-screen are saying. Watch any Zero scene from Code Geass. Then watch it dubbed in English. The problem isn't with the voice actors. Yeah, sure. The studios can also reanimate the show to fit a more natural English tone, but why would a Japanese-based studio go through all that trouble to please a very, very, very small minority of American viewers that prefer dubs (I'll guesstimate at 2%) - and the only viewers that prefer dubs are the ones who aren't really invested in anime at all, much less driven to the point of spending money on it. The exceptions? Pokemon, Naruto, Dragon Ball Z, and Yu-Gi-Oh. Real quick - tell me to the audience that these relatively decent dubs cater to. As such, they don't really give half of a **** about what some uninvested Americans think about their show, and as a result, quality dubs will probably never be a priority so get over it or stop watching.

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kenthefruit 🍇🍏🍋🍊🍒 Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4,330	You've angered the anime community, Sardon, run.

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Nep Zone GFX Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Under the bridge. Posts: 665	Sardon, dub is ****. End of story.

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Albie Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Battle Arena Posts: 1,550	I like dub because I'm lazy and can't be bothered to read subtitles.

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Nibbles OriginalHankHill Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Back. Posts: 448	Sigh i loved anime and i stopped becuz i watched every anime

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GlazeyB Nyanpasu Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,878	why is he still allowed to post he contributes nothing to anything.

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Admiral Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,912	Dub has its place for the few shows, but its rlly not worth it over sub I enjoyed watching Bleach in dub, u should try that

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twilit michael Join Date: May 2012 Location: Hyrule Posts: 3,511	- If you cant read subtitles, youre fkn lazy and probably illiterate. - Anime production studios really dont make a ton of money. It cost a lot of money to produce any type of TV show, and the money they make barely covers those expenses. Many anime studios only survive by selling merchandise through licensing. Others go bankrupt. - Anime studios are under no obligation to make their own English/French/etc versions of their shows. -That's why there's a such thing as fan dubs.