Posted by Admiral

Ironic some of the lengths people will go to to stay casual, even if that means forming these complex truces, rather than just towering lol

Well I think it's natural that people just want the easiest possible way to their goals, and making truces makes it easier for everyone to do that. The reason why it's bad, obviously, is because that isn't the intent of towering at all, so it needs to be an actual achievement to reach these kinds of goals. I can't really blame the people too much, they're just doing what's easiest for them. The system is at fault in my opinion, which is why at least some kind of change is needed.  

Posted by Darkk

Truced guilds would just rotate with certain towers in specific time zones? Like what NAL and CJ did every 12 hours.

I don't think 3 towers would be enough for guilds to truce. Less towers = more enemies.

People wouldn't truce, if they want to gain more hours.

Let's say 2 guilds truce. There will still be other guilds who want to take their towers. Truce won't do much, it would just limit the amount of hours you could gain.  

Posted by Aguzo

I don't think 3 towers would be enough for guilds to truce. Less towers = more enemies.

People wouldn't truce, if they want to gain more hours.

Let's say 2 guilds truce. There will still be other guilds who want to take their towers. Truce won't do much, it would just limit the amount of hours you could gain.

You can think of it that way, or everyone could join 3 main guilds because the others don't stand a chance, causing less competition, but would get rid of truces  

Posted by PigParty

You can think of it that way, or everyone could join 3 main guilds because the others don't stand a chance, causing less competition, but would get rid of truces

So there are only 75-100 good players to form 3 good guilds? I wouldn't tower with a guild just because they are good, seems boring. Rather tower with friends, or a nub guild.

Either way, I just checked the leaderboards, and I saw a lot of unknown(to me) guilds. There are plenty of decent - probably pro guilds to have a lot of competition. Especially with only 3 towers per rotation, and top guilds fighting over the time bonus. You think guilds are gonna hug it out and take turns getting the time bonus? Doubt it, especially if the tower that's chosen is random, and you can't guarantee that the tower you hold will get it as much as the others. Probably the more popular of the 3 towers chosen will get the most time bonus.  

Posted by Aguzo

I don't think 3 towers would be enough for guilds to truce. Less towers = more enemies.

People wouldn't truce, if they want to gain more hours.

Let's say 2 guilds truce. There will still be other guilds who want to take their towers. Truce won't do much, it would just limit the amount of hours you could gain.

Towering won't ever be competitive, at least not at this rate with this current set of admins and their ignorant ideologies.  

Posted by Darkk

Towering won't ever be competitive, at least not at this rate with this current set of admins and their ignorant ideologies.

By all means, make your own thread explaining how you think things should be. Genuinely interested to read what you believe is non-ignorance with regards to how the guild system should be.  

Posted by Distorted_P2P

Hypocrite, damn. You literally participated in the system we're trying to prevent. I watched you tower with a LOT of the same people on different 1k Guilds, one after another. You yourself lamed.

LOL? I've lead a handful of 1k guilds, and not one had a single truce. My guilds have had to endure times where five other guilds literally allied together, through the ally system, attacking us with 70 people total and still never crawled to other guilds for help.

Spoiler

And what does towering with the same people have to do with anything? I have no idea what you're rambling about.  

Posted by Thallen

LOL? I've lead a handful of 1k guilds, and not even one had a single truce. My guilds have had to endure times where five other guilds literally allied together, through the ally system, attacking us with 70 people total and still never crawled to other guilds for help.

Spoiler

And what does towering with the same people have to do with anything? I have no idea what you're rambling about.

I believe what he's getting at is you've lead multiple 1k guilds with roughly the same roster everytime and hoarding sards.  

Posted by Striken

I believe what he's getting at is you've lead multiple 1k guilds with roughly the same roster everytime and hoarding sards.

What point is trying to be made?

I shouldn't be able to choose when and where I want to tower? Why?
What does that even have to do with the trucing problem?  

Posted by Thallen

What's point is trying to made?

I shouldn't be able to choose when and where I want to tower? Why?
What does that even have to do with the trucing problem?

I'm answering your question about his post, but seems like you're rustled without much.