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10-27-2015
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Sparrers Vs Guild Sparrers
I was wondering if people consider both of these the same thing, and if you don't, why? Do you think a guild sparrer has better success 1v1 than a sparrer has inside guild spar?
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10-27-2015
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Guild spar is team based. Based on how well your team synergy is. 1vs' are based on how well you do. |
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10-28-2015
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True I agree but do you feel like sparrers have less capability of focusing on multiple opponents at once, rather than their usual 1 opponent. Unlike a gser who has to be aware of multiple opponents at once.
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10-28-2015
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Registered Sarcastic User
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5v5 is definitely more strategic than 1v1
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10-28-2015
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depends on the person (strategy, reaction time, vision of the arena). if some "pro 1v1 sparrer" in the form of some delaying clown who hugs the wall is thrown into a guildspar, they will probably just cause the rest of their team to get slaughtered by numbers while they're hiding against their home base, the wall. if a "pro 1v1 sparrer" in the form of a hyper-offensive sparrer with good movement and reaction time is thrown into the arena, they will play much differently and actually body the enemy team with speed, but may risk killing themselves quickly and putting their team at a numbers disadvantage. also tired of this "guildsparrers are better than sparrers in guildspar" stuff. it depends on the person, see above. personally, i never had any difficulty guildsparring and don't know why you guys are acting like it's a totally different thing from sparring. |
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10-28-2015
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I agree it does and it's not that I'm saying guild sparrers are better than sparrers, I think they're good in their own area. Yes it depends on the person but correct me if I'm wrong but when I see a sparrer guild spar and a gser guild spar, the sparrer doesn't move around as much as the gser does. They tend to focus on 1 person and destroys them. Unlike the gser that moves around and lands a hit on 1 person then runs and lands another on someone else. They cover the ring a lot better (in my opinion)
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10-28-2015
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1v1 spar is the ultimate test of how good you are at this game nothing else tbh |
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10-28-2015
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Enguard & Alumni
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^ I don't believe in the theory of "___ is a great guild sparrer but not a very good sparrer." I'm pretty sure if you sat down and counted the hits landed/taken of any player who you think that's true with, you'd realize they aren't that good. Being alive at the end of a guild spar doesn't mean you're good. GSing is just being defensive and using some small part of your brain to help your team get into advantageous situations. Not hard compared to what's required to be a good individual sparrer. Neither are that hard though. |
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10-28-2015
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Python
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In my opinion, like Comyt said, it depends on the person. There are those who are good at 1v1 and good at GS. There are those who are good at 1v1 and bad at GS. There are those who are good, but not neccesarily elite, at 1v1 and good at GS. There is the aspect, as an individual, of knowing what you have to do to help your team in those minor movements. That doesn't exist in 1v1. By the same token, in a 1v1, neither of you have anyone nearby to help, and neither of you have anything to focus on other than each other. Based on this, I'd say 1v1 takes more skill to be good at than gs, hence why I think there are people who are good at GS that aren't as much so in 1v1. |
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10-29-2015
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10-29-2015
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10-30-2015
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Bloodvayne
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If you were just looking for an example, I'd say go find Aserus. He carried SLX GST last season with the average landings of 8 or more. If you just look at his performance during the GS, he looks like a guy who has an average of 10:1 spar ratio. Clops, he is a pure elite. He can be insanely good at teamwork. He looks like almost as if he was trained professionally for this. He's much more well known for high quality of performance during GS than the spar. If you were looking for the opposite examples. Majin. Not a bad guild sparrer, but comparing to what he can do in sparring. He's not doing as well as he should in the guild sparring. Probably distracted in a tight space (when we failed to zone), he can't dodge and pull his skills off as much as he can. Bob. one of the best counterstriker using the blink in single sparring. But it's not the same story in GS. Two guy jumps at you, no blink *** works. |
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10-30-2015
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Enguard & Alumni
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I'm sure there are people who are good at sparring that aren't good at GSing, and it's probably because they don't enjoy it or care to invest the time to get good at it. Jack, Kevin, etc. I feel like if you're good at sparring then you're good at everything required to be good at Graal in general: understanding hit detection, comfortable with movement, you know how to work with blink, you understand the forms of lag, etc. The best sparrers could be the best at events, towering, stupid stuff like catching bugs, etc. It's all the same skillset. Some people have the patience to tolerate GSing and others don't, that's all I really think it is. |
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10-30-2015
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Megan (Providence)
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No, they are not the same. I can pick or avoid opponents in GS, whereas in solo you don't have that option.
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