Sparring and Lag

Noxious · 11-10-2015

I think the biggest issue that everyone can agree on when it comes to sparring is the different degrees of lag experienced by players. Sometimes it is difficult to tell if a player is actually good at sparring, or if their lag just gives them an unfair advantage.

I believe a fairly simple fix to this would be to implement a lagcap for spars. Players are already restricted from sparring if they do not have enough hours or are not identified, so a lagcap should be a pretty simple addition.

If staff have not implemented this because they fear it would restrict too many players, instead of implementing it to all spars they could get rid of the useless spar rooms (Mobile tourney and Facebook tourney) and turn them into lagcap rooms (one quick and one tourney?) where you can only join the queue if your ping is below a certain threshold (e.g. 250ms or lower).

CrimeWatcher · 11-10-2015

yeah the idev and facebook rooms are pretty much dead at the moment, something like this would be good to balance out the queues throughout the rooms so I don't have to wait 5-10 minutes to spar in the mixed room. lets also disable wins and losses in the side rooms while we're at it. people who spar in there either suck/selective spar, or they are new players who need practice before stepping foot into the rooms with actual competition. or, restrict players with over X amount of wins from entering the side rooms.

Fulgore · 11-10-2015

This has been suggested at least 10 times now and it won't happen. Suck it up.

Noxious · 11-10-2015

Oh, I was not aware this was suggested before. Did they say why it won't happen? I really can't imagine this requiring very much work and I don't see any downsides, so I'm curious what the reason would be.

DADA · 11-11-2015

Don't suggest to restrict the players suggest to expand the game.

UPGRADE SERVER OR WE RIOT

Alexmo · 11-11-2015

Posted by DADA

Don't suggest to restrict the players suggest to expand the game.

UPGRADE SERVER OR WE RIOT

Why not add weapons

Ariona13 · 11-11-2015

Posted by Alexmo

Why not add weapons

AS in guns? lol

Thallen · 11-11-2015

I honestly don't see why the Facebook/iDevice rooms couldn't be replaced by rooms with lag caps, something that simply checks your ping when you queue for spar and after every spar won

Striken · 11-11-2015

Posted by Thallen

I honestly don't see why the Facebook/iDevice rooms couldn't be replaced by rooms with lag caps, something that simply checks your ping when you queue for spar and after every spar won

When the server lags it'll cause majority of players to not be able to queue up in those rooms.

Thallen · 11-11-2015

Posted by Striken

When the server lags it'll cause majority of players to not be able to queue up in those rooms.

Okay, and? Having 2 rooms (at least 1) that go completely unused is better? It's not difficult at all to script it so that the cap raises with playercount, fp4 or Dusty could whip that up in a few minutes

Aguzo · 11-11-2015

Posted by CrimeWatcher

yeah the idev and facebook rooms are pretty much dead at the moment, something like this would be good to balance out the queues throughout the rooms so I don't have to wait 5-10 minutes to spar in the mixed room. lets also disable wins and losses in the side rooms while we're at it. people who spar in there either suck/selective spar, or they are new players who need practice before stepping foot into the rooms with actual competition. or, restrict players with over X amount of wins from entering the side rooms.

Doesn't like to wait 5-10 mins. Decides that the best method to make the queue time shorter is to gather everyone in one room...

A lag cap room would be great, but the server seems too unstable. I can't even check my ping for some reason on PC. (Can on phone)

Zetectic · 11-11-2015

just change idev, pc room to a quick spar and a streak room.
streaking queue takes a long time.

if u are worried about people boosting. make those rooms open and close at certain time.
like 3-11pm est and disable the queue bar after 11:01 pm.

GOAT · 11-12-2015

Posted by CrimeWatcher

lets also disable wins and losses in the side rooms while we're at it. people who spar in there either suck/selective spar

I don't get why people care so much about other players stats. Selective sparring is not cheating. Forcing bad sparrers to spar with good sparrers just ends up in forced selective sparring. I've said it before, the people that want to show they're a top sparrer will go spar the best to prove it and people that want to inflate their stats will spar noobs. Anyways, who judges players skill on stats? Personally I judge people based on how they do against me. Moral of the rant, don't worry about lame stuff other tryhards do to feel some type of accomplishment.

Let me tell you something about "selective sparring" everyone does it or has done it at some point. Get anyone with a 5:1 ratio or higher and have them spar at peak hours and see if they match their ratio.

I remember players saying they would spar at 1am because it was the only time the player count was low enough to make it worth sparring. I'm sure that the fact the arena was filled with noobs at that time had nothing to do with that decision.

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Noxious Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 279	Sparring and Lag I think the biggest issue that everyone can agree on when it comes to sparring is the different degrees of lag experienced by players. Sometimes it is difficult to tell if a player is actually good at sparring, or if their lag just gives them an unfair advantage. I believe a fairly simple fix to this would be to implement a lagcap for spars. Players are already restricted from sparring if they do not have enough hours or are not identified, so a lagcap should be a pretty simple addition. If staff have not implemented this because they fear it would restrict too many players, instead of implementing it to all spars they could get rid of the useless spar rooms (Mobile tourney and Facebook tourney) and turn them into lagcap rooms (one quick and one tourney?) where you can only join the queue if your ping is below a certain threshold (e.g. 250ms or lower).

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CrimeWatcher Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 174	yeah the idev and facebook rooms are pretty much dead at the moment, something like this would be good to balance out the queues throughout the rooms so I don't have to wait 5-10 minutes to spar in the mixed room. lets also disable wins and losses in the side rooms while we're at it. people who spar in there either suck/selective spar, or they are new players who need practice before stepping foot into the rooms with actual competition. or, restrict players with over X amount of wins from entering the side rooms.

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Fulgore Python Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,894	This has been suggested at least 10 times now and it won't happen. Suck it up.

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DADA DADA Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 78	Don't suggest to restrict the players suggest to expand the game. UPGRADE SERVER OR WE RIOT

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Thallen Enguard & Alumni Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 5,773	I honestly don't see why the Facebook/iDevice rooms couldn't be replaced by rooms with lag caps, something that simply checks your ping when you queue for spar and after every spar won

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Zetectic Bloodvayne Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,087	just change idev, pc room to a quick spar and a streak room. streaking queue takes a long time. if u are worried about people boosting. make those rooms open and close at certain time. like 3-11pm est and disable the queue bar after 11:01 pm.