Posted by GOAT

Forget device specific rooms I think it's time for MS specific spar rooms. I also think players with a 250 MS or higher should not be allowed to pk and tower. Only afk, advertisement of farms, and socializing for them. Players that do not have an American flag should also have some type of indicator above their head so we know who the bad ones are.

Maybe an option to use flag indicators. It's a little extreme to blacklist some players from playing the game at all. Lag caps for sparring and guild sparring would be reasonable. With the sever lag the caps would need to fluxuate to account for the increase of lag, that's the only problem and negative aspect of this proposal. Fp4 implement this!  

We say NO to discrimination against laggers!  

Posted by Darkk

Maybe an option to use flag indicators. It's a little extreme to blacklist some players from playing the game at all. Lag caps for sparring and guild sparring would be reasonable. With the sever lag the caps would need to fluxuate to account for the increase of lag, that's the only problem and negative aspect of this proposal. Fp4 implement this!

That wasn't a serious post. I was kind of making a reference to the refuge argument I had on another thread.

I know there's people(especially now with the flag update) that abuse the system to give themselves bad connections, but I don't think everyone should be punished for the actions of a few.

When it comes to MS people throw out numbers, but has anyone tested to see how different 100MS, 250MS, and 350MS are? The only thing I would agree with is if they added a max MS. Example: like 400-500 and up, just throwing out a number as I don't know at what point it starts becoming a joke.  

Posted by GOAT

When it comes to MS people throw out numbers, but has anyone tested to see how different 100MS, 250MS, and 350MS are? The only thing I would agree with is if they added a max MS. Example: like 400-500 and up, just throwing out a number as I don't know at what point it starts becoming a joke.

Real world example ftw!

• General description of measures of lag, as I had defined earlier (slightly different terms)
• List of settings for this particular game server
  
• More articulate definitions, actually specifying what each latency setting that can be configured on this game server, with an example provided for what one reasonable server administrator uses for lag settings
  

If we were to extrapolate what this guy uses from that last link:

• 175ms from the game client to the game server is considered slow
• 175ms from the game server to the game client is considered slow
• We can extrapolate that this to mean 350ms ping (i.e. Graal's known measure of lag).

I say that 400-450 is a good high limit, and kids with 56k internet service would probably get a chance to play when the server load is low. This guy implements a limit of 350ms on his server. However, this isn't a rule that means if you measure lag at 350ms, you're automatically kicked.

• the latency of 125 packets are sampled being sent from the game client to the game server
• the latency of 125 packets are sampled being sent from the game server to the game client
• If 9% of either of those 125 packets are above 175ms, the player is kicked
• If we were to simplify to round-trip-time, then if 9% of 125 ping samples are over 350ms, the player is kicked

I.e. having high lag for one ping check isn't going to get you kicked.

Onto packet loss: this is a measure of the number of packets that never reach the server or the client. Ever see someone warp from one side of the arena to the other? That's packet loss.

This guy says if 8% of your packets are lost on transmitting data from the server to the client or vice versa, you're kicked. There's also a flag for disabling weapons if packet loss is high enough, but the documentation doesn't really surmise what that means in comparison to the amount of packet loss that gets you kicked.  

Rocker owns them no matter if they are 20ms or 700ms