If we are going to say that it is not "a talent", we might as well get rid of arrows since they take no "skill".

Why do all stats have to be skill-based? The concept of skill is completely relative.

I agree that the baddies within that cave should be fixed, but baddie kills should definitely NOT be removed from a player's statistics.

Sorry, opposed to this idea.

Posted by Godzilla

Then you look at their profile and they only have like 2000 pks lol.

A Graalians's quantity of Player kills does not define their social status. I have plenty of friends who have less than 5k kills (or even under 3k) who just find player killing boring.

For example, I have one friend who has been actively playing since Spring of 2010. He has 1200 player kills.  

Posted by Xavier

If we are going to say that it is not "a talent", we might as well get rid of arrows since they take no "skill".

Why do all stats have to be skill-based? The concept of skill is completely relative.

I agree that the baddies within that cave should be fixed, but baddie kills should definitely NOT be removed from a player's statistics.

Sorry, opposed to this idea.



A Graalians's quantity of Player kills does not define their social status. I have plenty of friends who have less than 5k kills (or even under 3k) who just find player killing boring.

For example, I have one friend who has been actively playing since Spring of 2010. He has 1200 player kills.

Well baddy killing should be skill based but with this cave it isn't. It's just people boosting to try and make themselves look good.

And who says arrows don't take skill? I love arrows. In CTF I absolutely wreck with them. Lol whenever I'm chasing someone with the flag who has .5 I just fire one arrow where I think they'll go and Boom dead. Used right arrows can be amazing. Sure people can just spam them and get kills but then you waste all of them. Plus while your spamming them your completely immodble and vulnerable. I just fire one or two off to either finish off a person, or get some base damage on them. I don't think they should remove the stat, just make the level better. So It actually does take skills to kill them.

Never said it defined their social status. Just said that I found it funny that people were advertising baddy kills which they clearly boosted. When someone has 100k kills and 10k baddy kills its not weird. But when someone has more baddy kills than kills by a huge Margian it is.  

Posted by Godzilla

Well baddy killing should be skill based but with this cave it isn't. It's just people boosting to try and make themselves look good.

Posted by Xavier

I agree that the baddies within that cave should be fixed

Posted by Godzilla

I just fire one arrow where I think they'll go and Boom dead.

I was shady concerning what I meant. I was pertaining to people spamming arrows at MoD fort. What you described in CTF is skill.

Posted by Godzilla

Just said that I found it funny that people were advertising baddy kills which they clearly boosted.

I thought you meant they were noobs concerning their kills. I did not know you were pointing at their advertisement of their baddy kills, trying to prove to people they are "4n|3u pr0". Yes, that is quite comical.  

Lol awkward, I've gotten about 6000 baddy kills in this room. However, I find it stupid as well and definitely think it needs to be fixed, I'm just not sure what they could do to fix it. The blue and red baddies just move and attack really awkwardly, so maybe they could replace them with green baddies? I kill baddies a lot though so this 6000 or so didn't really make a dent. It also wasn't 6000 consecutive kills, it was pretty sporadic.

Anyway, just because someone has a high amount of baddy kills doesn't mean they boost. I'm reaching 80,000 and most of my baddy kills came before this room even opened.  

Wouldn't be fair for those who took the Baddy killing route in the game there's a Japanese girl with like 20k kills and 150k baddy kills wouldn't really be fair x.x  

Stupid baddies are the reason Graal has no bank.  

People still complaining about baddies? lol  

Posted by Notorious#

Literally no one talks like that, there's no need to use that as an example in every post, it's a bit boring.

I talk like that.  

wat a talant  

Posted by Skyzer

People still complaining about baddies? lol

not only baddies, hats, head, hours,.. too  

Downside to having a game run by the players.  

Posted by Xavier

If we are going to say that it is not "a talent", we might as well get rid of arrows since they take no "skill".

Why do all stats have to be skill-based? The concept of skill is completely relative.

I agree that the baddies within that cave should be fixed, but baddie kills should definitely NOT be removed from a player's statistics.

Sorry, opposed to this idea.



A Graalians's quantity of Player kills does not define their social status. I have plenty of friends who have less than 5k kills (or even under 3k) who just find player killing boring.

For example, I have one friend who has been actively playing since Spring of 2010. He has 1200 player kills.

Doesn't necessarily have to be skill. The purpose of Rufus' video is that there are means to inflate the number which were not anticipated/intended.

Even though killing baddies does not necessarily take skill, it still takes the effort and time to do so in ordinary means. This method bypasses that, thus lessens the worth of the statistic for those who obtain theirs via traditional means.

These sort of things should be addressed.