The only legitimate argument I've seen against this are the people talking about wanting to practice GSing at Belle. Even then, I still don't see what's so hard about just holding on to 4 guilds and using 1 open guild slot as a revolving, temporary tag space.

Staff could easily make a system at Belle to grant temporary tags, old tag team spars on PC had "Team 1" and "Team 2" NPCs that you could just touch. I'm sure it would not be difficult at all to implement something like that if it's seen as an issue.  

Posted by Thallen

The only legitimate argument I've seen against this are the people talking about wanting to practice GSing at Belle. Even then, I still don't see what's so hard about just holding on to 4 guilds and using 1 open guild slot as a revolving, temporary tag space.

Staff could easily make a system at Belle to grant temporary tags, old tag team spars on PC had "Team 1" and "Team 2" NPCs that you could just touch. I'm sure it would not be difficult at all to implement something like that if it's seen as an issue.

I know for you only being loyal to Enguard, maybe one other guild, and now Alumni, It's easy to see how people can manage few guilds.

In my case I have to choose between the following:
- Nuking my own guild, Bush Lion, which I happen to like wearing occasionally.
- Leaving my family guild, Bloodvayne
- Leaving my GST guild, SL
- Leaving a guild full of close friends, Blackout
- Leaving the iclassic incarnation of a guild I was in back on PC graal, SNC

I've already left 4-5 guilds with names I liked and actually wore pretty consistently. Now I have to pick between leaving one of 5 guilds that I'd really rather not (or can't, for obvious reasons) leave or make practicing GS super annoying.

Honestly I think a limit of 8 or 10 would've been perfectly fine if a hard limit was needed NOW for some reason. Anybody should be able to reasonably handle 8-10 guilds unless they're literally collecting friend/novelty guilds. Limit of 5 is just annoying for me at this point without the infrastructure to deal with the issues I pointed out. A lot of people I've talked to have said the same. If it was not needed right away, then there should've been some changes made in the weeks leading up to it to mitigate the annoyances.  

Ima leave all my guilds and hope Thallen can get me into Alum  

Honestly, I can see why this was such a controversial update for some of you. From a sentimental standpoint, I can see why some of you would be devastated - I had to spend a good 15-20 minutes leaving all of the guilds that have accumulated over the past years. It's not a bad change per se, however, it could have been implemented sooner.

I'm looking forward to where this will go.  

There's a #NoLimit hashtag going around in Classic. The update ain't too bad lol.  

Can always practice gs on a noob account.  

But can someone correct his?

From whar I am hearing the other update is guilds/guilds tags who are not used let use COM as a example could get refunded?

Thats bogus but this is what im hearing i used COM as an example because rhats be crazy they have 20k hours  

CoM isn't going to get disbanded...
Guilds with significant tower hours are exempt from the inactivity scrubbing  

If only soul of ninjas would get deleted  

By far worst update yet. Great job! (:  

By the most pointless update yet. Thanks!

iclassic devs show little regard for non tower/spar community once again :I  

Posted by Ivy

By the most pointless update yet. Thanks!

iclassic devs show little regard for non tower/spar community once again :I

happy almost 6k posts btw  

Posted by UU

happy almost 6k posts btw

I'm at 6001 now, didn't notice. Thanks haha  

Just a PSA, if you actually played an MMO majority only allowed you to be in one guild/clan. Graal is taking the right step as there were a lot of pointless guilds for friends when you could just y'know ****ing add them to your friends list instead of a guild.  

Off on a tangent, but I do think some consideration should be put towards increasing guild roster capacity as a way to compliment this. Having larger guilds should help naturally fix the problem of feeling the need to join so many.

Tower guilds are essentially 150-player guilds, being that everyone creates 1 main tag and 5 allied tags. A 50-roster guild with a maximum of 2 allied tags is essentially the same thing. I'm not suggesting 50, but any increase is probably helpful. Some way to unlock incremental +5 roster slots up to a cap would be interesting.

It'd affect towering more than anything else, and necessary changes would probably need to be made to flag HPs, but I think it's something that will need to be done one way or another if there will eventually be point-based penalization to guilds for having members leave/kicked. Permanent guilds of 25 members will be too small and awkward at towers and I'd imagine most will have no more than 10-15 online at any given time. I don't know though, it's hard to judge how things will be once everything is in place.