So. I have come up with a plan to fix the trade economy. I feel like we need to have a system in place where each item has an official price point of zc set by an admin, I think it would be a good idea also to have an assigned person to handle the price of those items and adjust them as needed. Now it would also be a good idea to make this "Trade Admin" in charge of what is tradable and what is not. And now when each item has a set zc price and it doesnt have to be say an exact price it could be a wide range of prices so say like for example some random said gun is worth 1000-1200, then it could only be traded for something else that is worth an ammount of zc in that price range. This would not only help with the messed up trade economy, but it would stop scamming and also give clueless players a better idea of what their item is worth if they don't know. That being said I have also observed this from a perspective of "will this effect the games income." and it really shouldn't make it worse, infact it may even make it better. Right now rare items are being sold for small prices and if they were sold at what they should be worth people would be intreeged to buy graalium to trade for it. So, now that I have explained pros and cons... I honestly feel like I would be a good pick for this role if we choose to do it. I have been around off and on since the begining of the game and I know where a large majority of items came from, what you did to obtain them, how old they are, and I can also do the math to price things at a fair and more reasonable price. And I know a lot of people may not agree with this at first, but in the long run I truely believe it would make Zone's trading system 100x better. Also just incase someone's like "I wanna give this to my friend." or "I want to let my friend borrow this." We could have a seperate feature for those one for gifting where they can straight up give an item to someone for nothing or another thing where you can let someone "borrow" an item for X ammount of time and maybe charge a small fee for gifting and borrowing.  

Thatd ruin the whole idea of trading and player based economy.
Sorry but it just wouldnt work.  

The whole idea of a playerbased economy was already ruined by the players  

Didn't we have a trade admin at one point and it failed?
I believe Hero and Shadow were the admins.  

Posted by Mangsi

Didn't we have a trade admin at one point and it failed?
I believe Hero and Shadow were the admins.

They were hired to monitor the trade tables, which honestly seemed like another pointless tag. May as well just have hired them as GPs, and I think even Tashkin realized this himself.  

Maybe adding a trade bulliten would help. Requires no standing at tables, and you can compare prices  

The point of trading is for a player to try and earn a good deal not to get a set price on something, players either want it enough to buy for more or you don't get it simply as. stupid idea.

What would change the economy would be restocking zc shop with multiple stuff some worth 20k + 10k(as last time i was on someone had 30k zc and that was while ago) + do lots worth 1k-5k melee's guns spells/powers! soon as you take most zc back out of game then the trading will become more reasonable.  

No.  

Items shouldn't have set prices from staff. It's supply and demand. It's not iZone's job to monitor and set prices for all items and hats. It's a free economy.  

We still need to make it enjoyable tho. I think adding more items into the game would help, and no more one of a kinds.  

May I remind everyone when weapons were disabled for trading?

Don't make changes. They work.

Or if you want, get rid of trades entirely now.

Fix stuff.

Add them back in like 3 months.

Don't make continuous changes to them while people are using them... It ruins it.  

The thing is though, Old and rare items are selling for chump change while some other items are selling for stupid rediculous prices. The thing is, with the way it is now you can't get what you're item should be worth. All someone has to do is say "Not worth." and suddenly whatever price they say becomes the new price.

For example the red christmas rifle was the very first freakin holiday shop gun, it was also one of the 5th guns added to the game overall. It sells for supposedly 600zc? Where as the other guns sold the next year go for around 2-3k? or how the Rubix Cube was again another old hat. It was the event hat back in 2012 sure it was common at the time but now its died out, and only a few remain. Yet people want to insist its only worth 2k zc, but I've had others PM literally shocked that the thing is only worth 2k, I agree, it should be worth much more because compared to other hats like it it's only chump change. All these prices are basically set at a "Oo i want that but I'm poor so i'm gonna say that the items only worth that much!" like for real, the AP Rippers are another good example of how messed up our economy was people would pay 42k just to turn around and make some quick zc, which is fine and all, but they were selling them at 250zc. That is literally a no logic price. Because if you use 42k to just buy graalium and then sell it for zc then it adds up to be about 850zc so why would anyone in their right mind do that? And again, the pulse sniper is just worth 100k zc for no reason at all. The only reason being that trigger said so. and get this, if you cash in 100kzc for 200k graalium then sell it all, you can instantly get 2 mill gralats. That is insane considering it didnt even sell for anywhere near 2mill.  

It's supply and demand. If someone doesn't want to pay 1k ZC, they won't, and if no one else does either, then the seller has to sell it for less. That's how the economy works, people pay what they think its worth, and people sell for what they think its worth, and buyers & sellers find an agreeable price. No one's going to follow mandatory staff prices, plus if you add 1 more item that only 4 exist currently, the price could change drastically, or not much at all. We can't predict how prices will change. It's basically a stock market, a gamble. Zone shouldn't be setting prices on items that players are buying and selling.  

I wish that was how things work pig, but no. How things work rn is everyone has a set price for items and if you want to sell anything for any more then it's worth everyone starts yelling "noob" and "you're an idiot it's only worth X amount or, you're trying to scam people! scammer!" The thing is, they bully you into selling things for a set price and if you try to sell it at a set price higher then what it's worth and someone does decide they want to buy it it's fine and dandy till someone stalks your trade and yells "That's not worth!!!!" And ruins it completely. We already basically have set prices. They are just really messed up.  

I mean it does work like that...

You can always find me selling vip items for 15zc and buying melees for 500 just to cut the crap of bargaining.

Like you know it's right when Pig and I agree...