Many millions of Muslims 'fundamentally incompatible with the modern world', says Tony Blair: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6954796.html
SJWs and PC police, attack  

67 dead in yesterdays attack at Lahore... hmmmm no one seems to care. So much for the love of humanity you people seem to show.  

Posted by MBK

67 dead in yesterdays attack at Lahore... hmmmm no one seems to care. So much for the love of humanity you people seem to show.

Holy ****...

This has been way too far out of hand for a while now.  

Hilary Clinton is a diabolical liar who will say anything to become president and she'll run the country into the ground. She is just trying to become president for selfish reasons.
Donald Trump is extremely patriotic. He's trying to become president because he actually wants to help. Now he uses stereotypes sometimes, and doesn't always have the brightest ideas, but those idiotic ideas won't actually be allowed by congress. But trump will help the country's economy, something Hilary wouldn't do.
I know there are better options like Cruz and Bernie Sanders BUT
the FACT of the matter is, hilary and trump MIGHT be our two candidates, in that situation, I hope you save this country and vote for the more patriotic, less idiotic, less diabolical, Donald trump and not Hilary Clinton, who comes from a long family line of liars.  

lol qes seems to believe that Donald Trump has never lied  

Posted by Yog

lol qes seems to believe that Donald Trump has never lied

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI
if you chose hilary over trump I'm worried about how much research you've actually done. and if you've done enough on both and your still voting for hilary, I blame your parents. Neither are good, But trump won't destroy the country like Hilary would  

Posted by qes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI
if you chose hilary over trump I'm worried about how much research you've actually done. and if you've done enough on both and your still voting for hilary, I blame your parents. Neither are good, But trump won't destroy the country like Hilary would

Nice, you were able to provide citation for something I have said before in this thread (even though I've already seen that video before) Donald Trump lies a lot too. What's your point?

I don't plan on voting for either, and I'm not really sure what my parents have to do with any of this but okay.

I don't think either can literally destroy the country, but Hilary isn't a racist xenophobe, so there's that I guess.  

Posted by Yog

Nice, you were able to provide citation for something I have said before in this thread (even though I've already seen that video before) Donald Trump lies a lot too. What's your point?

I don't plan on voting for either, and I'm not really sure what my parents have to do with any of this but okay.

I don't think either can literally destroy the country, but Hilary isn't a racist xenophobe, so there's that I guess.

everybody has their own bias', the fact that trump is loud about his and hilary says whatever she can to get people to like her says a lot.
he's not racist, he just see's the obvious, that a big amount of mexicans come over the boarder and use american benefits without having any real loyalty to america. same with many foreigners.  

Posted by qes

everybody has their own bias', the fact that trump is loud about his and hilary says whatever she can to get people to like her says a lot.
he's not racist, he just see's the obvious, that a big amount of mexicans come over the boarder and use american benefits without having any real loyalty to america. same with many foreigners.

I don't know why you keep bringing up Hillary

I have two questions.

What would you consider loyalty to America? What is it that the immigrants have to do?

Why do you think building a wall is going to solve any of this? Because it won't.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...ants-come-air/

I also don't see why you guys are so worried about Mexicans when it's honestly us that's the problem

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth...ime-1436916798

A wall would also have a serious negative impact on agriculture and nature. There's really no benefit from it.  

Posted by Yog

I don't know why you keep bringing up Hillary

I have two questions.

What would you consider loyalty to America? What is it that the immigrants have to do?

Why do you think building a wall is going to solve any of this? Because it won't.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...ants-come-air/

I also don't see why you guys are so worried about Mexicans when it's honestly us that's the problem

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth...ime-1436916798

A wall would also have a serious negative impact on agriculture and nature. There's really no benefit from it.

I don't want a wall. That's one of Trumps less bright ideas. I'm not like a huge trump fan, I'm just saying it will most likely end up being Trump Vs Hilary in the Primary. And I hope people choose trump over her.  

Posted by qes

I don't want a wall. That's one of Trumps less bright ideas. I'm not like a huge trump fan, I'm just saying it will most likely end up being Trump Vs Hilary in the Primary. And I hope people choose trump over her.

You never answered my questions. You seem to be agreeing with Trump and his views on Mexican Immigration.
VVV

Posted by qes

he just see's the obvious, that a big amount of mexicans come over the boarder and use american benefits without having any real loyalty to america. same with many foreigners.

 

Posted by Yog

You never answered my questions. You seem to be agreeing with Trump and his views on Mexican Immigration.
VVV

As of 2012, the population of immigrants in the United States illegally is estimated to be approximately 11.43 million, roughly 3.7% of the entire US population. 59% of the immigrants in the country illegally are from Mexico, and 25% of all immigrants in the country illegally reside in California. 53% of the immigrants in the United States illegally are male. In 2008, approximately 31% of workers in the roofing industry and 27% of maids/housekeepers were immigrants living in the country illegally.

We should make it harder for people to get into the country. Illegal immigrants and immigrants from Mexico work in America, and bring the money to Mexico to feed their families. This is not good for the American economy. Jobs are good for the economy because they are given to people who actually use the money to buy things in the US. Which is something you do not get when you have people using their American money in other countries.

Solution? Making it harder for people to sneak US illegally, and making it harder to get into the US legally. Obama doesn't believe we should make it harder. He thinks anybody should be entitled to come into our country and do as they please. And that's working out great in Belgium right?

Trump is very specific with what he is going to do, he doesn't just say "i have a plan"(shout out to hilary) he actually gives you his plan, which means he intends to do something. Whether or not all of his plans are good ideas, I'm sure their better then Obama's health care system.

Which gave free health care to people who did nothing to get it, meanwhile some people work all their life to pay for their own health care, or do a city type job to get those health benefits. Politicians who put things in place so people can get things for doing nothing are doing so because the people who vote for them are jobless people who do not contribute by paying taxes. Instead of being a model citizen and paying into the System they take things like food stamps, free health care, and unemployment checks.( I understand people need these things but when my family was poor, our solution was for everyone in the family to get a job until my dad could find a higher paying job again, not go on unemployment because we're lazy)

Trump is in favor of the most important class in America, the working class. Even though Trump needs to work on SOME things on his agenda, and needs to become more politically correct (for the people who are still insecure about their goddamn skin color in 2016, where practically nobody is actually a racist person)

I would pick him over Hilary if it came down to them.

Personally I hate politics, If you do research on how politicians in America become Politicians, they basically go to college to learn how to get votes and how to get money for their party. Its a job for them, winning an election is for their own personal interest, not the countries.

I love the idea that Trump is doing this for the country, because he's already rich and doesn't need to be president for a pay raise like the other politicians he's running against. Sadly, Trump messed some very obvious things up in his speeches and America views him as an idiot. An idiot? He's a brilliant negotiator. In order to make that kind of money EVERY year you NEED to do negotiations with very bright people who can tell when somebody is bull****ting them. Trump is far from an idiot. It's pretty easy to call a Billionaire a racist idiot while you sit on the couch and playing graal. He just needs to stop yelling stereotypical/nonfactual things and getting so cocky in debates.

It would be nicer if another rich American Patriot who is slightly more informed about things decided to run for President instead.  

Posted by qes

We should make it harder for people to get into the country. Illegal immigrants and immigrants from Mexico work in America, and bring the money to Mexico to feed their families. This is not good for the American economy. Jobs are good for the economy because they are given to people who actually use the money to buy things in the US. Which is something you do not get when you have people using their American money in other countries.

And you think Trump, the one outsourcing his jobs, gives a **** about what happens in the middle class?

Posted by qes

Solution? Making it harder for people to sneak US illegally, and making it harder to get into the US legally. Obama doesn't believe we should make it harder. He thinks anybody should be entitled to come into our country and do as they please. And that's working out great in Belgium right?

You're not making your points very clear. Are you for the wall or not? Because that's really the only plan Trump has laid down to keep immigrants out. Sure, maybe building a wall is possible, but his plan to get Mexico to pay for it is going to start a trade war, and Mexico is never going to pay for a stupid wall. Also, refer to the previous links I sent. nearly half of all immigrants in the US are just people who overstay their Visas. How is a wall going to prevent that?

Posted by qes

Trump is very specific with what he is going to do, he doesn't just say "i have a plan"(shout out to hilary) he actually gives you his plan

Is he though?

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Don.../27/id/647139/

Sure, you could argue that he's right about revealing his plan being a bad idea, but if he really had a way to wipe ISIS out as fast as he implies, why are they still a thing?

Posted by qes

Which gave free health care to people who did nothing to get it, meanwhile some people work all their life to pay for their own health care, or do a city type job to get those health benefits. Politicians who put things in place so people can get things for doing nothing are doing so because the people who vote for them are jobless people who do not contribute by paying taxes.

Do you not understand that people in the 1% (for example: Donald Trump) get tax cuts, which doesn't make a lick of sense since he needs the money the least. You also don't seem to understand that not everyone has equal opportunity. There are people out there working a hell of a lot harder to keep a job and raise a family as opposed to those who can afford decent healthcare. Now sure, Obama wasn't able to give exactly what was promised, but do you honestly think that people who have had pre-existing conditions should be denied healthcare?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2016...-saved-my-life

Does this guy look like a lazy asshole who doesn't deserve to live?

http://imgur.com/gallery/JHbVB7f
http://imgur.com/gallery/R56APDm
What about these people?

Posted by qes

Trump is in favor of the most important class in America, the working class. Even though Trump needs to work on SOME things on his agenda, and needs to become more politically correct (for the people who are still insecure about their goddamn skin color in 2016, where practically nobody is actually a racist person)

If you honestly think racism no longer exists, you are ignorant.

What about that time where Donald Trump pretended to not know who the former KKK Grand-Wizard was, when he had infact known who he was. Why couldn't he just say he didn't want their vote? You would think the Black Vote is worth a hell of a lot more than a racist cult's vote.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b03260bf777e83

Oh and remember the time he said he never settles? Well if you read the article, he HAS settled. Multiple times.

Posted by qes

I would pick him over Hilary if it came down to them.

I'd pick neither. I think giving up on your politician because he's not doing as good is an idiotic move. It's like switching teams because yours is losing.

I think Bernie still has a chance to win. Sure, some of you may not agree with this. Say what you want. But I think if anyone wants him to win, deciding that he's been having a rough time recently and therefor he can't win is a mindless move.

Posted by qes

Personally I hate politics, If you do research on how politicians in America become Politicians, they basically go to college to learn how to get votes and how to get money for their party. Its a job for them, winning an election is for their own personal interest, not the countries.

Okay. Thanks for this fact I guess.

Posted by qes

I love the idea that Trump is doing this for the country, because he's already rich and doesn't need to be president for a pay raise like the other politicians he's running against. Sadly, Trump messed some very obvious things up in his speeches and America views him as an idiot. An idiot? He's a brilliant negotiator. In order to make that kind of money EVERY year you NEED to negotiation with very bright people who can tell when somebody is bull****ting them. Trump is far from an idiot. He just needs to stop yelling stereotypical/nonfactual things and getting so cocky in debates.

Anyone remember that time where Trump said something along the lines of

I have so much money I don't know what to do with it. Now I want so much power I won't know what to do with it.

Posted by qes

It would be nicer if another rich American Patriot who is slightly more informed about things decided to run for President instead.

I feel like you don't understand how campaigning works. You can essentially buy your presidency now. You don't even need to have good points. If you have money you can make it pretty far.  

Trump cares about the American Economy. Which is held together by the upper and middle class, without them there would be nobody to pay for the things we need. He also cares about making the middle class larger and the lower class smaller. Through creating jobs for people already in America, rather then handing them away to people who easily get into this country.
I'm not sure If I agree with the wall. Kind of a weird idea but if it were to work to help the issue i don't see why not. As for people over staying their visas,they should be thrown out of the country or put in jail.
To me Trump is the most specific about what he is going to do. The other people are flaps who haven't done anything big in their life before.

I do understand people don't have equal opportunity. When my great grandfather came to this country, he had to give away one of his children to his friend who was more wealthy because he could not afford to feed 5 children. He came from ireland and worked on the railroads and died at the age 55 due to what the long hours of work. He worked hard and was able to provide what he could for his family. My grandfather was obviously still poor, and worked to become a cop which helped him provide for his family. My father became a fireman, which helped him provide for me. We did not come from a family with good opportunity, most of my great grandfathers brothers and sisters died before age 18 in the potato famine. We did not come to this country asking for anything, when I graduate college and am in college debt (because I don't get financial aid but my father also doesn't want to help pay) i will work to get out of it, and not ask for free things until I'm literally starving without a place to live. And i will stop taking free things quiet quickly because I wont give up. I've been working any job I could get since I was 12. Everybody should be this way, so yes i know about opportunity, everybody has the opportunity to do what they want. quit being a bitch.

Racism obviously exists. But who ****ing cares? If somebody doesn't like me because I'm irish or italian, **** you too then. I have aunts and uncles who married all types of races. I have cousins who are Puerto Rican, Black, and Korean, I'm sure there are people out there who don't like koreans, Puerto ricans or blacks, who ****ing cares? let those idiots be ignorant and if they get caught being ignorant in the work place, fire them and move on with your life. It's really not that complicated. Your looking into Donald trump as if he's not human. He stereotypes people, but its statistically accurate. I don't think Trump has any problem with any race considered he's probably worked with every type of ethnicity.

I like Cruz AND Sanders more, but when its Hilary and Trump in the Primary I'll be supporting trump. Because Hilary is insane. That fact she made it that far in her career still baffles me.

I do understand how the campaign works, its stupid but nothing will change unless you get somebody different in the office, rather then voting for another Obama/Bush/Clinton  

Why do you care so much about Mexican immigrants? They only account for 28% of the migrants. People in the Eurozone or Asia account for far more "money outflow" than the Mexican's do. At least when Mexican's do it they spend it in a bordering country, which we import to quite a bit.

If you're that worried about Mexican immigration, then you should worry about those from Asia, Africa, Europe, South America, and wherever else. But most of you don't, you all just go "Mexican this, Mexican's steal my job that" when you're losing more jobs to everyone else.

Also, wants wrong with clinton(Bill Clinton, not Hillary) or Obama? Give me real reasons, not just the good ol' "they suck!"