Posted by Godzilla

Twinny, admins could make themselves more available like hanging out in graal without gold names-

*insert rest of post here*

Dear god... Like seriously..

First off, its put on PM only because of spam.. They have tried this before!

Second, while there are admins that basically search through random pieces of applications looking for the next big scripters, theres also other admins that are looking around for scripters aswell... Its just the fact that no one ever stands up and ask... And when they do, they're only qualified to low standards... Which is not acceptable considering the amount of responsibility you are to have being an admin

Last but not least, The only people they're hiring at the moment is GP and Uploaders (i don't think for uploaders anymore): Two of which at the moment are a really high point in the game right now: Uploads and Moderation.

Any under additions are under the majority of staff members and Stefan...
Just shut up and be patient please..  

im just curious. What questions do you want to ask us anyways?

and again, for the people saying all staff have pms from friends only on just pm me. Even if you have a question for another admin, and they have friends only on just pm me and i will be more than happy to transfer your question to whatever admin.  

Posted by Maikeru

Dear god... Like seriously..

First off, its put on PM only because of spam.. They have tried this before!

Second, while there are admins that basically search through random pieces of applications looking for the next big scripters, theres also other admins that are looking around for scripters aswell... Its just the fact that no one ever stands up and ask... And when they do, they're only qualified to low standards... Which is not acceptable considering the amount of responsibility you are to have being an admin

Last but not least, The only people they're hiring at the moment is GP and Uploaders (i don't think for uploaders anymore): Two of which at the moment are a really high point in the game right now: Uploads and Moderation.

Any under additions are under the majority of staff members and Stefan...
Just shut up and be patient please..

Lol you stupid or something?

Go ahead and just ignore practically everything in the post you just quoted

I said they've made no attempt to stop the spam. The players do it because they haven't told them not to. They haven't really tried it before on a large scale. I suggested a plan on how I would go about it but I guess you were just too lazy to read that before posting.

And the situation with scripters on iclassic isn't good at all. They have some of the best in the community, but all of them are basically part time. Iclassic desperately needs scripters. They really need to test anyone who shows the slightest interest in a position on the server. Even if they're a little below par, the current Scripters can mentor, and teach them to be better. The fact that they're not even paying attention to someone who has an interest in a scripting position is pretty stupid.

And what am I being patient for exactly?  

Posted by Godzilla

Lol you stupid or something?

Go ahead and just ignore practically everything in the post you just quoted

I said they've made no attempt to stop the spam. The players do it because they haven't told them not to. They haven't really tried it before on a large scale. I suggested a plan on how I would go about it but I guess you were just too lazy to read that before posting.

And the situation with scripters on iclassic isn't good at all. They have some of the best in the community, but all of them are basically part time. Iclassic desperately needs scripters. They really need to test anyone who shows the slightest interest in a position on the server. Even if they're a little below par, the current Scripters can mentor, and teach them to be better. The fact that they're not even paying attention to someone who has an interest in a scripting position is pretty stupid.

And what am I being patient for exactly?

So let me get this straight: your basically requesting admins to hire scripters (most of which are self-serving and such as what Twinny said) so that they can make more "Free" or "Active" content for players such as quests,events,items and such.. am i right?

Now im not saying that as a bad thing but heres another thing i'd like to point out: Stop.. Being... Freaking.. Serious.

They don't desperately need scripters.. Its just the impatience of your community asking for quests and such (*cough* HIGBEY *cough*). Please also notice that its part-time because they got better things to do.. Social activities, school/college, friends, jobs, etc. They're not getting anything from this other than making players on Graal happy so why the hell should they ever do this full-time?

And scripters of iClassic aren't supposed to teach those who are below or just touched onto the standards of scripting. You're supposed to know it and experiment more with it from the very start if you're willing to qualify. If you can code using graal PC (i think... idk), then use it and keep learning without the need of admins having to teach scripters when they could be doing more updates for the game.

The two scripters that were actually worth having on that team were Marion and Remi (THE QUEST!!!). I'd have those two back on that staff team rather than any of those qualifying scripters because they actually put some god damn effort! Idk what happened with them though..  

I think I see the problem here...the bulk of the igraal community has never experienced really good staff members. Staff members who if caught doing some of the **** Ive seen admins doing on iclassic would be fired immediatly while on here it's just sort of buissiness as usual. I don't really care. If you guys are happy with the current state of graal then so be it. I'm really getting tired of writing essays trying to change the game. Might as well accept that iclassic will always be the way it is. (don't know about iera since I've barely played it).  

Posted by Godzilla

I think I see the problem here...the bulk of the igraal community has never experienced really good staff members. Staff members who if caught doing some of the **** Ive seen admins doing on iclassic would be fired immediatly while on here it's just sort of buissiness as usual. I don't really care. If you guys are happy with the current state of graal then so be it. I'm really getting tired of writing essays trying to change the game. Might as well accept that iclassic will always be the way it is. (don't know about iera since I've barely played it).

So you're saying admins should stop making events and having fun with other players and just get serious on the game, boasting content regardless if its free or not, players will complain about it because the update is not exactly what they asked for?

Seriously, get the hell out..

iClassic doesn't hire straight serious or self-content staff. If PiX is one of them, stop requesting to add him.

Admins took a more "acceptable" approach.. When they only fired staff due to non-serious business, the game's population was an all time low. Lollipop, Muse, Regret, Slim and all such were fired because of this. I think its best that the game stays where it is now, because if we get admins to be on serious business, we're going to see alot of trouble within the staff team and in-game.  

Posted by Godzilla

I think I see the problem here...the bulk of the igraal community has never experienced really good staff members. Staff members who if caught doing some of the **** Ive seen admins doing on iclassic would be fired immediatly while on here it's just sort of buissiness as usual. I don't really care. If you guys are happy with the current state of graal then so be it. I'm really getting tired of writing essays trying to change the game. Might as well accept that iclassic will always be the way it is. (don't know about iera since I've barely played it).

business*  

Posted by Skyzer

Only give staff tools to staff who need them. Only allow staff tools to be used on tag. Log the actions staff members. (time, level, and to whom drag was used on for example)

Best part of the thread, feedback on this nao pl0x.  

Posted by Maikeru

So you're saying admins should stop making events and having fun with other players and just get serious on the game, boasting content regardless if its free or not, players will complain about it because the update is not exactly what they asked for?

Seriously, get the hell out..

iClassic doesn't hire straight serious or self-content staff. If PiX is one of them, stop requesting to add him.

Admins took a more "acceptable" approach.. When they only fired staff due to non-serious business, the game's population was an all time low. Lollipop, Muse, Regret, Slim and all such were fired because of this. I think its best that the game stays where it is now, because if we get admins to be on serious business, we're going to see alot of trouble within the staff team and in-game.

Lol wow. I dont even know if I just grace such idiocy with a reply. The funniest of it all is you think your such hot ****.

Lol I'm actually not saying that at all. I'm saying that they should take their job seriously and understand the fact that there's 1000+ people out there that would love to have it so they shouldn't abuse powers. The staff on other servers don't need to do all the **** that goes on here. They'd get fired if they did. Why is iclassic an exception? They should Definitly still have fun however with the community as a whole. As in stop running around with only your friends, and just chill with the community as a whole. This is a mix of work and pleasure because you can answer questions, and just chill with fellow graalians.

Should they stop boasting content? Yeah, because it always ends in disappointment. People always run around talking about possible quests because of new NPCs which were added but nope. In fact I believe you made a topic on this wondering why they're teasing people do much.

Admins should still make fun events but should mix it up from hide n seek.

And with PiX he sent an application in requesting a position, talking about his past server experience, etc and it was completely ignored. They didn't test him, then decide he's not good enough, they completely ignored him. Still think its okay?

The rest just makes no sense what so ever. First of all, lollipop quit and she was one of the best staff members we ever had. Why? Because she was in constant contact with the community, and not just her friends, everyone. She quit because she didn't like the direction the server was going. Slim was fired for straight up abuse and it was long deserved. I'm not sure about tw situation with regret and muse, but muse was also very good, and her graphics were amazing. Also in contact with the community.

Second, If you say that the staff members were fired because of non-serious buissiness then why do you not what serious buissiness?

Yes if the staff start taking their jobs seriously there will be huge problems. Because that makes sense.  

Godzilla, you are being very disrespectful. Who are you to tell these Oldbies how a Graal server should be run?

You don't know all the work it would take to get the things you whine about.

lrn2debate  

Posted by Godzilla

Lol wow. I dont even know if I just grace such idiocy with a reply. The funniest of it all is you think your such hot ****.

Saying im such hot **** doesn't make you look any better.. or your reputation any higher..

Lol I'm actually not saying that at all. I'm saying that they should take their job seriously and understand the fact that there's 1000+ people out there that would love to have it so they shouldn't abuse powers. The staff on other servers don't need to do all the **** that goes on here. They'd get fired if they did. Why is iclassic an exception? They should Definitly still have fun however with the community as a whole. As in stop running around with only your friends, and just chill with the community as a whole. This is a mix of work and pleasure because you can answer questions, and just chill with fellow graalians.

Got Questions? Email at [email protected]
How many times did admins kept repeating it?
And whenever they chill with the community, its content-begging noobs who ask for ownership of admin powers, hats, or something content-worthy. Theres only like one or two people out of that crowd that goes "Sup. Hows it goin?".. The rest are content-beggers, so don't blame admins on why they teleport to a different section of the town.

The only time they could chill is on top of battle arena, top of the church, and in clubs. They can't go anywhere else because players think its a better solution to ask for it rather than being patient..

Should they stop boasting content? Yeah, because it always ends in disappointment. People always run around talking about possible quests because of new NPCs which were added but nope. In fact I believe you made a topic on this wondering why they're teasing people do much.

Yes but then a few admins have told me several reasons why it was removed and such.

The marriage chapel was accidentally placed on the main server instead of the dev server.. Because they were still working on it..

The Golden gate is removed because it was a direct ripped off port of the PC version and is being replaced with a new golden gate sprite

The only one that feels teased right now is the quest... Because its July and that quest was tossed into the shelves for a long time... Probably, ill hope to see it by 2012

But back to your argument: They make content for the game.. Because even daily content value gets tiring in less than a day.. And they should stop making content and go against the 100+ people (basically everyone) who asks/suggests/begs for more content to make the game actually more interesting than it was before? You just want Graal classic to stay as is right now for the rest of the game? Think of this question: Do you know how many players would get f**kin pissed if admins stopped making content for at least 2 weeks? Trust me... You do not know the emails/fanbase they get asking for content...

Its an online game... Not adding more content is probably the stupidest suggestion for a online game... Because people want more out of Graal Classic.. And so far, the admins are doing a very good job at it. Just be patient you prick!

Admins should still make fun events but should mix it up from hide n seek.

Theres guild spar tournaments, opening of clubs, and treasure hunt events other than hide n seek. Where the hell are you looking at right now?

And with PiX he sent an application in requesting a position, talking about his past server experience, etc and it was completely ignored. They didn't test him, then decide he's not good enough, they completely ignored him. Still think its okay?

Posted by NYN

Patience and don't try so hard!
I can't stand when I get messages of people trying to act mature and being super subtle letting me know they wanna be a staff member. They try to get around every single rule I might write in this blog to try to show me that they stand out. "Oh hi I'm 18 and I just want to let you know that I just made a cool video about Graal check it out! It insults my intelligence. DON'T CALL ME I'LL CALL YOU! I will NOTICE anything you contribute in my news feed and it will be highlighted if other people enjoy it. So focus on them not me. When you're a GP, it matters more if players like you anyway so start getting on their good side now. I will ignore anyone try to start a friendly conversation with me. I don't wanna get to know you like that. I'm sorry. It happens entirely too much and I can see right through you. Don't even bother.

I don't follow this guide but since it came from an admin who said this directly from his view, i posted it for your attention

The rest just makes no sense what so ever. First of all, lollipop quit and she was one of the best staff members we ever had. Why? Because she was in constant contact with the community, and not just her friends, everyone. She quit because she didn't like the direction the server was going.b Slim was fired for straight up abuse and it was long deserved. I'm not sure about tw situation with regret and muse, but muse was also very good, and her graphics were amazing. Also in contact with the community.

Some actually got fired in the past because of personal issues (school,etc.) but for now, its all good

Second, If you say that the staff members were fired because of non-serious buissiness then why do you not what serious buissiness?

The only serious thing they should worry about is just the server working as is. For now, the content and events they're making is good. They can do any updates they like at the moment and im liking the direction the game is going in at this point because it fixed all the previous crud from 2010-mid 2011

Yes if the staff start taking their jobs seriously there will be huge problems. Because that makes sense.

For now, we don't need to do anything. The game is going perfectly smooth as planned, the events/updates are good and packing in content, and the admins are being hired/working properly.

We have good staff so idk wtf you and your so called friends/players are saying about them. Its changed.. We don't have any more abusive admins.

Im sure if PiX gets hired, you'll start saying "PiX Good staff! Hes greatest staff member of all time".

All im hearing is you whining for a better staff team, better events, and better overall experience... Which is complete garbage to my ears..

Again.. Just another content-begger..  

If people who have been playing Graal for two-ish years are oldbies, then I'm ****ing ancient.  

@maikeru
Like I said they've never made a serious attempt to stop this. If they turn off their gold names everything would probably go swimmingly.

Email is in many cases too slow. It could take hours to get a response and if you have a few follow up questions even longer.

There's still teasing with the cat, and the golden slime dude.

I never said they should stop developing they should be developing more. I really don't know where your getting this from. Sounds like your just making **** up.

Good thats what I want more of. Hide n seek is overused

The guide is for a GP and Uploader position not a scripting position. And if you have to follow that stupid guide to get hired then the server has truely gone down the ****ter. I dot see why the both of you did that guide, if someone needs it to get hired they shouldn't get hired.

The recent updates are mostly Rufus and fp4. It's better than last year I guess even though I wasn't here for most of it.

And no abusive admins is a pretty big statement to make amigo. And while it might not be abuse here some of the stuff they do would be unacceptable on other servers. My guess is there's still abuse just more behind the scenes.  

Posted by Godzilla

There's still teasing with the cat, and the golden slime dude.

That isn't teasing... The cat is just as blatant as it is. It's stuck in a tree. As for the golden slime, it might be foreshadowing an upcoming quest. Who knows? You can't make stupid claims and say they're throwing it in there just to get our hopes up.  

Posted by Yephenpeace

So you're saying that staff are useless unless they host events? Why do people care about the number of GPs? It literally does not affect the gameplay at all. Sure it'd be cool to have an events team but i fail to see why your complaining about the current staff...

That is not what the topic is originally about. I am complaining about the effort shown by admins towards their respective jobs, not the numbers of GPs but lowering the numbers to a few dedicated ones. Sure it is good to introduce events, but that is not what I consider the admins useless for.