Posted by ReD s.

You are probably the dumbest GP that uses this forum, what I'm trying to say and what Bryan is trying to say is that MOST gp staff members are the social tea party type of players, most of them are hired off of there clean ban records because all they do is afk and spam guild chat.

Because we don't kill other players = we aren't general assholes that have our chats reset? K.

@Fulgore running away from an argument doesn't prove anyone wrong.  

Posted by Yog

Because we don't kill other players = we aren't general assholes that have our chats reset? K.

@Fulgore running away from an argument doesn't prove anyone wrong.

No, Not having an understanding of something so simple such as sparring or pking is pathetic you're hired to monitor places that have functions based off of these features and don't even understand how the mechanics for that activity work.  

Posted by ReD s.

No, Not having an understanding of something so simple such as sparring or pking is pathetic you're hired to monitor places that have functions based off of these features and don't even understand how the mechanics for that activity work.

Please explain what I don't understand, because you seem to be so sure I, and many others, don't have the required knowledge to moderate spar.  

Posted by CM

Oh no, people have different interests than you so they shouldn't be GPs.

Also, nice usage of generalization and making it as if all social players know nothing about PKing, sparring, or towering.

Bryan pretty much summarised everything... But yet again your jumping to conclusions he didn't say you had no idea about how any of it works...he's saying the people who are punishing people/moderating should be people who are the most familiar with the activities and understand how it works (ref. to my earlier post if you are incapable of understanding what this means)  

Posted by Yog

Please explain what I don't understand, because you seem to be so sure I, and many others, don't have the required knowledge to moderate spar.

here you go

Posted by Kuz

Bryan pretty much summarised everything... But yet again your jumping to conclusions he didn't say you had no idea about how any of it works...he's saying the people who are punishing people/moderating should be people who are the most familiar with the activities and understand how it works (ref. to my earlier post if you are incapable of understanding what this means)

 

No, you generalized Zanza members, claiming they don't even play Graal. And are arguing that no one but sparrers should moderate spar.

I'm not disagreeing with you that if Fulgore and another GP were monitoring spar, he should probably have the say. But simply saying that you have a bad spar score means you can't moderate spar doesn't make sense.  

Posted by Yog

No, you generalized Zanza members, claiming they don't even play Graal. And are arguing that no one but sparrers should moderate spar.

I'm not disagreeing with you that if Fulgore and another GP were monitoring spar, he should probably have the say. But simply saying that you have a bad spar score means you can't moderate spar doesn't make sense.

I never said this, otherwise I'd say fulgore shouldn't be moderating spars.  

Posted by Yog

No, you generalized Zanza members, claiming they don't even play Graal. And are arguing that no one but sparrers should moderate spar.

I'm not disagreeing with you that if Fulgore and another GP were monitoring spar, he should probably have the say. But simply saying that you have a bad spar score means you can't moderate spar doesn't make sense.

Alright I think it's been said like in the majority of posts in the last few pages...If someone's gonna moderate and monitor something like spar it should be people the experienced people to spar who understand the mechanics well and have an understanding of spar.


Take for example hit boxes...One admin might think someone is hacking their sword range because they hit someone diagonally which has a higher range compared to hitting across. But someone like Thallen/Fulgore/James/Tego/Brett etc. understands why it's not sword hacking so...I think I speak for majority of the spar community and we'd prefer people like them monitoring instead of someone who's sparred like 400 times in 5 years. So we can avoid situations like this any many other things that may occur in spar.

I don't really know about towering so I can't comment on that moderation.

Yet again let me state i'm not slating you admins...I've been GP on client before I know you guys have the servers best interest at heart but come on you can't deny having experienced sparrers moderate sparring would be better than random admins...to avoid incidents like the ones mentioned earlier in this thread.  

We rarely, if ever, encounter someone in the arena who is lagging so badly that it actually requires staff to intervene. That's usually because they'll end up disconnecting or freezing for an auto loss. People like Jimbo and Volkan are probably some of the laggiest sparrers and we just deal with it.

I don't think any active sparrer has it on their list of priorities to find opportunities where they should lag themselves for an "advantage." It's so much more likely that they're getting bad service, a family member is using their internet, or their ISP is just choking for a few minutes or seconds. It's happened to me before, and it's more of a punishment to me than anyone else. That being said, I don't think that's worth punishing with a ban...  

Posted by Kuz

Take for example hit boxes...One admin might think someone is hacking their sword range because they hit someone diagonally which has a higher range compared to hitting across. But someone like Thallen/Fulgore/James/Tego/Brett etc. understands why it's not sword hacking so...I think I speak for majority of the spar community and we'd prefer people like them monitoring instead of someone who's sparred like 400 times in 5 years. So we can avoid situations like this any many other things that may occur in spar.

This is something that could, and should be trained to anyone moderating spar.

Posted by Kuz

Yet again let me state i'm not slating you admins...I've been GP on client before I know you guys have the servers best interest at heart but come on you can't deny having experienced sparrers moderate sparring would be better than random admins...to avoid incidents like the ones mentioned earlier in this thread.

I literally said this in the post you quoted...  

Posted by ReD s.

You are probably the dumbest GP that uses this forum

I'll take dumbest GP over dumbest player any dayalso not even GP

By the way CM that thread you made saying you were sorry for how you act on these forums obviously hasn't affected you at all you're still a stubborn little kid when it comes to these topics.

???

Posted by Striken

CM you're still the same old asskisser per usual.

Exactly who am I "asskissing"?


Why are you all so instigative? Literally when someone doesn't agree with your almighty 100% opinion, you attack them. Calm down, this thread is meant for discussion, not for attacking each other.  

Posted by ReD s.

By the way CM that thread you made saying you were sorry for how you act on these forums obviously hasn't affected you at all you're still a stubborn little kid when it comes to these topics.

LOL shows how much of an airhead Red is.  

Posted by CM

Oh no, people have different interests than you so they shouldn't be GPs.

Also, nice usage of generalization and making it as if all social players know nothing about PKing, sparring, or towering.

If a GP doesn't have any in-game knowledge about the aspects of iClassic aside from kissing ass to the right people, I don't see why they should moderate the game. Just because you have a clean slate and I don't, doesn't mean you know more than me when it comes to the activities mentioned. If you aren't familiar with what is expected of you, then how do you expect to excel at your position?

Also, nice usage of overthinking and exaggerating my statements. We're all considered social players, however, some of us are equipped to do things better than others (PK-Spar-Towering-etc).

On a side note: don't think it's right for an admin to be violating someone's privacy for their own personal vendetta.  

Posted by Bryan*

If a GP doesn't have any in-game knowledge about the aspects of iClassic aside from kissing ass to the right people, I don't see why they should moderate the game. Just because you have a clean slate and I don't, doesn't mean you know more than me when it comes to the activities mentioned. If you aren't familiar with what is expected of you, then how do you expect to excel at your position?

When being good at moderation requires you to have a lot of kills, we'll call you.  

Posted by Yog

When being good at moderation requires you to have a lot of kills, we'll call you.

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He never said anything about requiring a lot of kills to know what the **** you're talking about.