Bothers me that you guys can make an excuse for Alumni and Bello losing 4v5 when practically the same thing happened to VIS against Alumni last GST when we were easily winning the round until Fro's phone restarted, yet most of you decide to put it off like it was nothing.
So in that case, it's just too bad that they froze. It's no one elses fault but theirs. I respect Sarah for acknowledging that as well. Alumni deserved to beat us last GST, and we deserved to beat them and Bello this GST. Fair game, move on.  

Posted by Incognito

Bothers me that you guys can make an excuse for Alumni and Bello losing 4v5 when practically the same thing happened to VIS against Alumni last GST when we were easily winning the round until Fro's phone restarted, yet most of you decide to put it off like it was nothing.
So in that case, it's just too bad that they froze. It's no one elses fault but theirs. I respect Sarah for acknowledging that as well. Alumni deserved to beat us last GST, and we deserved to beat them and Bello this GST. Fair game, move on.

Although admins could have stopped after Surge warped in the second round and let us use our sub. Not gonna complain tho u won  

@crime, if they didn't have to deal with technical difficulties they might have won ? Your making this more than its mean to be lol

Posted by Incognito

Bothers me that you guys can make an excuse for Alumni and Bello losing 4v5 when practically the same thing happened to VIS against Alumni last GST when we were easily winning the round until Fro's phone restarted, yet most of you decide to put it off like it was nothing.
So in that case, it's just too bad that they froze. It's no one elses fault but theirs. I respect Sarah for acknowledging that as well. Alumni deserved to beat us last GST, and we deserved to beat them and Bello this GST. Fair game, move on.

But you made it to last gst finals because I froze when we was beating you on the last round ? So surely that cancels it out anyways  

Posted by Saber Alumba

@crime, if they didn't have to deal with technical difficulties they might have won ? Your making this more than its mean to be lol



If your gonna pull that up them I can can say the only reason

Obviously there's a language barrier here and you don't understand the context of what I said.

It's obviously Fro's fault that his phone restarted and we aren't going to make an excuse about it, we lost.

edit: didnt fully quote sabers post for some reason but whatever  

Posted by Incognito

Obviously there's a language barrier here and you don't understand the context of what I said

edit: didnt fully quote sabers post for some reason but whatever

I just don't see why someone has to be so butthurt for me saying that if Sarah maybe didn't experience lag they could have won.  

Posted by Saber Alumba

I just don't see why someone has to be so butthurt for me saying that if Sarah maybe didn't experience lag they could have won.

we aren't butthurt, but us at VIS would at least want some credit for our ability to get past these tough brackets and consistently place semis. instead we keep getting recognized for these 5v4 wins that we have no control over.  

Posted by Incognito

we aren't butthurt, but us at VIS would at least want some credit for our ability to get past these tough brackets and consistently place semis. instead we keep getting recognized for these 5v4 wins that we have no control over.

Well I did say " I'm not using it as an excuse , don't be so hostile lol. I'm just staying what's been said , my intention wasn't to imply they would or wouldn't have won if it didn't happen" in my previous reply but your team member seems to still be a bit jumpy.  

you guys arent winning gst right

:belt in people's faces and laugh at the ******s who accuse you of having the entire thing rigged cuz "admins". das how u do it mane  

Posted by Crono

you guys arent winning gst right

:belt in people's faces and laugh at the ******s who accuse you of having the entire thing rigged cuz "admins". das how u do it mane

Time for us to rethink our strategies !  

This thread lol  

What even is the current argument even about? Sarah had a lag spike, as she's been having regularly since she traveled to Egypt. Everyone acknowledged it. We all were begging to have her subbed out. She got subbed out. You guys won. No one talked trash or complained. Where's the problem?

Posted by Incognito

Bothers me that you guys can make an excuse for Alumni and Bello losing 4v5 when practically the same thing happened to VIS against Alumni last GST when we were easily winning the round until Fro's phone restarted, yet most of you decide to put it off like it was nothing.

Well, no one ever talked about how VIS has won GSTs while cheating and using banned players either... Especially when other teams (like us) did not use their banned players (like Abood and Jack).  

Posted by Thallen

What even is the current argument even about? Sarah had a lag spike, as she's been having regularly since she traveled to Egypt. Everyone acknowledged it. We all were begging to have her subbed out. She got subbed out. You guys won. No one talked trash or complained. Where's the problem?


Well, no one ever talked about how VIS has won GSTs while cheating and using banned players either... Especially when other teams (like us) did not use their banned players (like Abood and Jack).

Did you even read the previous posts lol.. I was just addressing the fact Saber thinks the only reason we won was because of a "5v4 for VIS" when in fact Alumni beat us that match because Sarah was lag hitting us all. I'm not mad at Sarah lagging I'm just pointing out Saber doesn't know what he's talking about and we beat Alumni legit, end of story.  

Who cares? Ignore him, get over it, etc. Like I said, no one complained when your team legitimately broke the rules during GST wins. Can't believe there's been an entire page of posts arguing over one guy's comment...

I agree that the host should have intervened in the Bello match, but couldn't have Bello just not queued again? Surge definitely needed to be subbed out...  

there was a host that was saying that my latency was going over 900ms then he said it's over 9000ms... I had to stop during our match vs Demon and ask him to stop saying it because it wasn't true and it was really annoying  

guys we need gst fix list:
1. flawed brackets/gs pt system
2. troll/ban evade teams
3. laggy server- 4000+ on during gst.
4. choppy viewing room
5. add live scores in viewing room