Aight, leggo back to the topic:

How to make Zone great? (this should be the topic name instead, "again" doesn't make sense..)

Drop Chelt.

And Weeno, I believe only 2 parties are mad rite now, or one and a half.  

like GIT said in the first post, we need to find a way to get a proper management team, in this case Silver and FR, in charge and progress can easily start from there since everything pretty much has to go thru them and since they would be most qualified they have the best potential to bring good content, fixes, and updates. It all starts from there so thats priority #1  

Chelt is doing fine as a manager, so theres no point having him removed and it's not up to graalians users to decide whether or not to remove him either.

He is really nice, but he won't give random people full rights just because they asked for it, they should work for their rights slowly.

silver and friedrice wouldn't likely punish abusers that give friends their items, i also believe they would easily give rights away if the new staffs beg for them.  

Didn't you just start zone?  

Just saying constantly debating who is the best manger isn't helping the game  

Posted by Cecily

Chelt is doing fine as a manager, so theres no point having him removed and it's not up to graalians users to decide whether or not to remove him either.
He is really nice, but he won't give random people full rights just because they asked for it, they should work for their rights slowly.
silver and friedrice wouldn't likely punish abusers that give friends their items, i also believe they would easily give rights away if the new staffs beg for them.

FR actually removed rights from people and hardly ever gave rights to someone that they didn't need. Silver's never had the chance to give rights. But what I said is based on actual occurrences, rather than guessing from no where. Besides, Chelt isn't here to make sure staff don't get rights that they don't need. That's never been a problem for a long time. Tashkin made sure of that a while ago. ;)

Eh, but what do I know?  

Also, as stated, we have more qualified people due to both of our managers being rather new, why waste time with people who don't understand the game as a whole when we could have people who have time, experience, and knowledge, this is like sending the 3rd string players in a football game out when you need to score asap and having the 1st string benched.

But this whole thread is pointless cuz Unixmad, yknow the guy who owns the game and is losing money by not being that involved in it, probably doesn't even know this site exists

Heck, we've even gotten in direct contact with him, after he asked us to, and after one of the staff members wrote a long msg explaining how things are going and offered good suggestions, didn't even get a response. So aside from poor management, theres what is basically bad business practices  

So this game is going to die like player worlds  

Elect me, and I shall lead Zone to victory. *Fanfare plays*  

Ha ha good joke unless you can build a game ground up  

I thought about it tbh, been busy with work tho  

Posted by Alexmo

Ha ha good joke unless you can build a game ground up

Zone has plenty of content already and plenty potential. No one has yet executed it correctly, though. The focus has always been on quantity, but by focusing on that, people have been blind to the potential content that can easily be made by improving the quality of something. *cough* missions.

I mean, I get why Geno would be mad at Chelt, but other people are saying Chelt has failed, before he even has a chance to get anything done. I'm not saying he will succeed, nor am I saying he will fail. I hope for Zone's sake that he succeeds in improving Zone. It all takes time, though. A manager needs to lead, and execute ideas & projects. Obviously it hasn't worked in the past with the staff we had, so trying something new like taking in these staff is a good idea. I don't want to go on some rant against someone else, but people keep saying Silver and FR should be managers. Silver has only had LATA position in leadership, and he did good there. That's all he's been able to prove, though. (That's not saying he shouldn't be able to prove he can lead, because I believe he should). FR, however, has had many leadership positions and has proven that he can't handle it. We need something new for management, and we currently have that. After this temporary period of management is over (and hopefully Zone has been much improved), then we still need someone new for permanent management, and Silver is the best choice for that.  

Yeah, quality has been an issue, and a major reason is that tashkin and every manager after him don't really play the game as a full time player and that will cause them to lack the knowledge of the gameplay itself meaning they'll be blind to a lot of possible improvement and fixes, and to really have the knowledge you'll need at least 2 years put in since its a complex game and all components of it have to work with each other, meaning you can't possibly do the job correctly if you don't have an understanding of it. Actually thats not even with just management, any position that will have a direct influence on gameplay need to know this as well (levels for example, like having a levels member make a base yet they themselves don't base or even pk, they would be blind to some things that make a base good or bad). To make something good, you have to know what makes it good, and what makes it bad and if youre lacking the knowledge for either of those, mistakes will be made.  

Making something good also takes time. And I talk with the whole team about ideas and decisions. And often ask the for input on things. It's not like I'm defining zone myself. And that's why I'm also happy to hear player feedback ^_^  

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