Posted by Coco

That's like the equivalent dickishness of a full grown adult racing a bunch of 1st graders. You know you're better than everyone else at this game

In other words: "we should not be rewarding the very good players for their accomplishments because everyone else sucks"

Did you ever believe that you should stop Alumni from participating in the GST when we were literally non-stop dominating it? Genuinely curious
^ in bold because I actually want an answer to this

Dumb rule. You seem to be leaning towards a Graal that's more centered around like... a glorified fashion contest and 30 reskinned chance games where everyone just wins randomly because "everyone deserves a chance!"

You know this is a game that we're playing right?
Sorry that beating a bunch of noobs with 3 hours of total gameplay in sumo triggers you but it's not our fault that the way you hand out prizes is god awful.

Posted by Coco

I don't think you're understanding. It's more like "why are you playing for a hat you already won. Why aren't you letting other people have a chance at winning? You're ruining the fun for everyone else."

Yeah, no I totally understand you. "Why are you being good at the game when it makes it difficult for me as a staff member to make decisions like: should I give him a different hat if he has this one already?"

Sumo is not chance. One requires actual understanding of this game and in the other you can do nothing and win. It's enough of a chance to actually get into one of these events, so you effectively telling us to stop playing them is ridiculous.  

Posted by EP

By your logic we should prevent players who are good at a certain aspect of a game from participating. Next we should prevent anyone whos won a gst hat from participating in it until everyone has had a chance to win.

Posted by David

In other words: "we should not be rewarding the very good players for their accomplishments because everyone else sucks"

Did you ever believe that you should stop Alumni from participating in GST when we were literally non-stop dominating it? Genuinely curious

Dumb rule. You seem to be leaning towards a Graal that's more centered around like... a glorified fashion contest and 30 reskinned chance games where everyone just wins randomly because "everyone deserves a chance!"

You know this is a game that we're playing right?
Sorry that beating a bunch of noobs with 3 hours of total gameplay in sumo triggers you but it's not our fault that the way you hand out prizes is god awful.



Yeah, no I totally understand you. "Why are you being good at the game when it makes it difficult for me as a staff member to make decisions like: should I give him a different hat if he has this one already?"

Oh my god...I'm not saying they should never ever be able to participate. I'm saying don't participate in an event where you already have the hat. Christ. I don't know how much more clear I can be. If it's the same event but a different hat then by all means, join and try to win! If you have the hat that an event is being hosted for, let other people try to win and wait until an event is being hosted with a different hat that you don't have yet! It's just a matter of being nice and letting others have a shot at winning before they don't have that chance anymore, is that so hard??  

Considering I literally get to play 2 events every 6 months, no. I'm not going to actively subside my enjoyment of this game because you're incapable of coming up with a better reward and event system. If you believe something is broken then fix it. It's not up to the playerbase to stop themselves from having fun because you don't want them to win.

If you win an event you deserve a prize. If this extremely simple sentence still manages to confuse you then I don't know what else to say to you other than you've effectively proven my point that you believe this game should be chance.  

Posted by Coco

lol what? No. We should award people for winning an event. We shouldn't reward people for outshining everyone else just to get a bunch of free hats that the event wasn't even being hosted for. That's like the equivalent dickishness of a full grown adult racing a bunch of 1st graders. You know you're better than everyone else at this game, congrats, you won your prize, now let everyone else have a chance.

Also your winning and expecting a different prize than the one announced is not only extremely rude, but it's a pain in the ass to have to go and dig up and different event hat just for your special little self.



I don't think you're understanding. It's more like "why are you playing for a hat you already won. Why aren't you letting other people have a chance at winning? You're ruining the fun for everyone else."

So the person has played a lot and dedicated their time to getting good at events. I can understand where you're coming from in-terms of letting others have a chance, but I think it's also unfair to the person getting excluded. They've played a lot to become that good and it's all practice. Players, who aren't that good - can equally become as good if they practice. And also, events aren't always taking place. The person might just want to play due to boredom.

I think it's also rude and uncalled for that you called the person a jerk, just because he stated that he won two events and got different coloured hats. Also, I can't believe you think that just because a player is good at something, that would automatically make them a person who ruins the game for everyone else.  

man i havent gotten into an event in 2years this guy gets into an event 2 time in a row wtf  

Posted by Coco

Yeah but they still go and enter the event, knowing they have the hat already, and try to win. Doesn't make it any less jerk-ish. Give other people a chance for crying out loud.

Yes, exactly! Unfortunately, people are selfish and could careless about anyone else.  

Posted by Crime

man i havent gotten into an event in 2years this guy gets into an event 2 time in a row wtf

ya and if you by chance happen to get into an event where you already have the hat the host has you're the scum of the earth  

Posted by David

Considering I literally get to play 2 events every 6 months, no. I'm not going to actively subside my enjoyment of this game because you're incapable of coming up with a better reward and event system. If you believe something is broken then fix it. It's not up to the playerbase to stop themselves from having fun because you don't want them to win.

If you win an event you deserve a prize. If this extremely simple sentence still manages to confuse you then I don't know what else to say to you other than you've effectively proven my point that you believe this game should be chance.

lol wow. Okay. Well then if you play an event where you already own the hat, don't expect a prize at all if you win. Events are hosted with a set prize that is announced to the whole server and if we wanted to give you whatever prize you wanted we would say that prior to the event starting. We aren't obligated to give you a prize if you already have the one we said we were going to give out and to expect we would is extremely a**hole-ish. You don't go participate in a contest irl and expect a different prize than what they offer, and same should still apply to online games. You absolutely do not deserve a prize if you win knowing you already have the hat. If this extremely simple sentence still manages to confuse you then I have nothing else to say to you.  

I'm a little disappointed at the missed opportunity to call this thread "Badmin" hehe...
ok I'll stop.  

Posted by Coco

Events are hosted with a set prize

You're constructing an argument on the basis that this ^ isn't a stupid rule.

If you're actually like.. comparing an NBA basketball playoff to graal then just lol @ you, cause graal isn't real life. No game is?

You see people being good at the game and constantly winning as a fundamental issue here (which I think is pretty mind numbingly ridiculous), coming on the forums and calling people names because they like being competitive on Graal and winning.

There's an entirely different side to this game than fashion shows and RC, get to know it and maybe you'll understand why people want to win as many events as they can.  

Yeah how dare humans make mistakes! I say we hold an inquisition and burn anyone who's ever made a mistake in their lives

Warper events are trashy

The queue is less trashy

But yeah most people just hit "join queue" before they even look at the hat thinking that it might improve their chances of making it in  

Just a side note, Milo hosted a warper event this morning and I won the TV hat, she then hosted a Que event for TV hat, I some how got warped into the event even though I had the hat(letting you know I don't think that it is scripted properly.) but anyways it was math race and I got to the trophy and purposely didn't grab the trophy since I had the hat if it makes you feel better coco. I personally just love events so I think it's unfair for players to not be able to participate in something that actually makes the game competitive

Posted by DoubleliftGraal

Pictures/Videos or it didnt happen

https://imgur.com/gallery/DVjYY  

Posted by Nanner

Just a side note, Milo hosted a warper event this morning and I won the TV hat, she then hosted a Que event for TV hat, I some how got warped into the event even though I had the hat(letting you know I don't think that it is scripted properly.) but anyways it was math race and I got to the trophy and purposely didn't grab the trophy since I had the hat if it makes you feel better coco. I personally just love events so I think it's unfair for players to not be able to participate in something that actually makes the game competitive

+rep, so nice of you. can't believe you did that just so you won't end up being called a jerk, and prevented ruining the fun for everyone else. i admire u, nanner.  

Posted by Reemas

Admins need to revert back doing queues. There are older players like Nanner that know how event warpers work and take advantage of them. It's easier for them to find the warps. I recall there being a guild that was entirely devoted to events just for the purpose of winning each and every event. That was years ago untill the queues were brought in. That fixed the problem.

Also, kinda funny some of those same players were later hired as staff on other servers like Graal Zone. Even after being as part of staff, they still complain. People dont change, I guess.

It'll never be fixed lol. Dual only hosts warper events with easy hints (not challenging ones) which gives folks like these an advantage.  

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