I hear that the GST will be combined into one division. What I mean is that there may be no more mixed and idevice divisions for gst, just one plain gst for ALL devices. Is dis true?  

Posted by Darkk

Stupid idea to merge tournaments.
-iDev players freeze literally every 10 seconds.
-PC players can strafe (if they are on the left), where as idevs can't. Even though not many PC players utilise this.
-The idev player base in the spar community would die.
-The majority of idevs suck vs PC teams or maybe thats just an excuse for them losing in practice.
-PC players are better in general
-Can't think of another idev besides me who has really stood out in a mixed GST. Partially because most idevices don't like sparring PC players and therefore hardly enter.
-The freedom of choice to decide which tournament to enter isn't hurting anyone

The pros for merging tournaments could be:
-More competition? Nvm, the same super-team of the best 5 players would win everytime.

Can't think of any reasoning for merging the tournaments.

Although it would be interesting to see the best idev teams beat every pc team that isn't Alumni/ULTRA  

Posted by fp4

The plan is to switch to a single 64 team tournament when the guild system is eventually updated.

The change will make sense with the way guilds will be working when it does happen, not like they just randomly decided to merge the two together.  

Posted by Colin

The change will make sense with the way guilds will be working when it does happen, not like they just randomly decided to merge the two together.

How can you be so certain that the GST will have a direct correlation with the 'NGS' point/score system?

The same question can be raised about pking, bking and sparring contributing to the 'NGS.' I don't think Fp4 has publicly confirmed any of this. All unlikely hypotheticals imo  

If they just wanted to make it a single tournament and it had no correlation with the NGS then they wouldn't be waiting all this time to release it when NGS is out.

I'm just gunna guess you haven't read any of the NGS threads, the roster size is being increased and a points system is being added where each individual member can contribute points, kicking members/using temporary members will bring some form of punishment (losing points most likely) as the whole point is to promote guild loyalty and overall activity in the game outside of towering and guild dedication.

There's no other reason they would be changing the guild system, and taking this long to do so.  

Haven't read that thread.

It's an unofficial forum and half of the ideas that they post won't be implemented. I'm positive you can find other examples.

-2015:

Spoiler

 

I'd say their word is official considering they develop the game lol, who's to say GST hats won't be removed come NGS?

NGS had been on the update queue before that post was made, he never provided a specific date.

Like I said, if there was absolutely no correlation between NSG and the single 64-team tournament they wouldn't be waiting to release it alongside NGS.  

Why the GST should be left untouched when the NGS is implemented:

-Would be lopsided and the same guild would take home the 1st place points every season...
-Not every guild member is deserving of the 1st place points in a guild that wins.
-Since guild loyalty is promoted and you can't recruit outsiders to improve, the same outcome will occur.
-No g-sparrer that isn't already top 10-20 has improved in 2 years, so recruiting would be necessary- you then get punished for that?
-GS activeness would drop from GST month to GST week. No reward=no motivation.
-5/25 (5/50?) members can actually spar? lol fun
-The GST right now would still be more fun than the NGS (in the long term.) No need for change

Posted by Colin

Like I said, if there was absolutely no correlation between NSG and the single 64-team tournament they wouldn't be waiting to release it alongside NGS.

Lol? The likelihood of 64 NGS guilds existing is 0. A 64 team tournament when I doubt there will be more than 10 active NGS guilds. If only 5/25 will spar (or 50) then the remaining members create new guilds just to participate in this 'guild loyalty' tournament, kinda defeats the purpose of linking the NGS to the GST.  

25 vs 25, make it happen  

The most rational explanation for combining the tournaments is so that NGS guilds don't feel pressured to recruit 14 out of 50? roster spots dedicating to a tournament that happens four times a year. However, I feel like having only 7 out of 50? participating in a GST is going to create a weird GST atmosphere anyway. 43 other people aren't going to be humble enough to just sit out, so it's either going to encourage new and temporary guilds specifically for the GST (which is the exact problem the NGS should be fixing) or it's going to leave people feeling unhappy. I'm not really sure how the best way to handle it would be.  

Posted by Darkk

-Since guild loyalty is promoted and you can't recruit outsiders to improve, the same outcome will occur.
-No g-sparrer that isn't already top 10-20 has improved in 2 years, so recruiting would be necessary- you then get punished for that?

Just a note that you wouldn't get punished for recruiting them, you'd get punished for recruiting them, using them, and then kicking them (or having them leave) afterward, as should be the case.  

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Gst shouldn't be linked with the NGS, they shouldn't make "guild points" as a reward for gst. Otherwise, half of those "50" players gonna be gsing in belle/ba which will effect the daily points of the guild. Also, it's going to be awkward when you only pick 7 members even tho some others practiced in ba/belle too. We should just stick to our gst guilds and the rewards should stay the same. Plus, this will make less gst guilds submissions since there will be only few NGS guilds with 50 members (you can only submit one team) I doubt you will get 64 submissions. Allowing the NGS guilds to submit 2 teams at once could also be an issue, because obviously you'll have the strong team and the weak team. But it's going to be better than having one submission from each guild. You can place the first submission in the first 32 guilds brackets and the second submission in the other 32 guilds brackets.

Edit: sticking to 2 gsts ( idev and mixed) will have the same result/effects as submitting two teams in one guild for one Gst.  

You could enter without having 50 members, just being awarded points would be useless.

They would of looked at this from every angle and found something that made sense and worked well.

Posted by Saeed

Gst shouldn't be linked with the NGS, they shouldn't make "guild points" as a reward for gst. Otherwise, half of those "50" players gonna be gsing in belle/ba which will effect the daily points of the guild. Also, it's going to be awkward when you only pick 7 members even tho some others practiced in ba/belle too..

Wow it's almost like you can't just plan your recruitment process to recruit different people who are interested in different activities to avoid issues like these

Posted by Darkk

Why the GST should be left untouched when the NGS is implemented:

-Would be lopsided and the same guild would take home the 1st place points every season...

Lol, don't act like this isn't already the case

Posted by Darkk

-Not every guild member is deserving of the 1st place points in a guild that wins.

You clearly don't understand the point of the system, everyone makes individual contributions and people who do so through spar are just doing theirs.

Posted by Darkk

-No g-sparrer that isn't already top 10-20 has improved in 2 years, so recruiting would be necessary- you then get punished for that?

What do you mean 'necessary'? Just have people practice more and get better, where's your logic here?

Posted by Darkk

-GS activeness would drop from GST month to GST week. No reward=no motivation.

Again lol, this 'activity' is people sparring, getting high points(or boosting) and stopping, then sparring only in places like Delta Island, nothing is going to change.

Posted by Darkk

-5/25 (5/50?) members can actually spar? lol fun

Plan your recruitment process? Not all 50 people are going to want to spar, the point is to gather people who are interested in different activities of the game.

Posted by Darkk

-The GST right now would still be more fun than the NGS (in the long term.) No need for change

Can't say this until you've tried it.  

doesn't matter all of this was supposed to happen in january 2016 and we're still talking about it like it's coming out next week