Posted by Colin

Didn't you uninstall and reinstall? That means the graalID for the dragged account is gone, and you could have used physical objects to do it.

I'm not entirely sure, but I think e-mail is required as well for a lot of these checks, which is why it's required when using Toonslab support.

Even when I uninstalled the game, the ID remained the same, but on each device it was different
My Galaxy s8, the one I was dragged on, remained the same

Unless they change after a certain point, without the owner's knowledge
My main account has the same ID, no matter which device I run it on

I still have my toonslab ticket numbers saved, and I included the ID for my phone in one of them  

There are ways to cheat without having a rooted phone, so all of this is irrelevant, especially when you've posted a video using a physical object to automatically farm for you.  

Fairpoint..Can staff clarify on 2things;
Are you allowed to be playing on multiple accounts at same time(whether identied or not) to give player advantage i.e here gaining more money.
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Aren’t players who get banned on one account(whether main or not-if sharing same ip) can’t/shouldn’t go on another account to play anyway?

for both I’d say they probably aren’t allowed but here seems to ignore it and pass it off like you can.  

Posted by G Fatal

Fairpoint..Can staff clarify on 2things;
Are you allowed to be playing on multiple accounts at same time(whether identied or not) to give player advantage i.e here gaining more money.
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Aren’t players who get banned on one account(whether main or not-if sharing same ip) can’t/shouldn’t go on another account to play anyway?

for both I’d say they probably aren’t allowed but here seems to ignore it and pass it off like you can.

We have always been allowed to use multiple accounts? That's not even the case in Aguzo's ban.
I don't see anything about your second point anywhere in the thread, no one stated that you're allowed to use an alt account if your main is banned. If your main is banned, you're not allowed to play graal regardless of the account you're using till the full time ban duration is finished.  

Posted by G Fatal

Fairpoint..Can staff clarify on 2things;
Are you allowed to be playing on multiple accounts at same time(whether identied or not) to give player advantage i.e here gaining more money.
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Aren’t players who get banned on one account(whether main or not-if sharing same ip) can’t/shouldn’t go on another account to play anyway?

for both I’d say they probably aren’t allowed but here seems to ignore it and pass it off like you can.

From my understanding, an advantage is in competition. There is no leaderboard for farming/earning gralats
I spent time saving up gralats with one account in order to purchase each conveyor belt (worth 500 each)

I started with 50 conveyor belts in order to use the auto horse farm (25k) + switches and barries = 60k or so
I bought 50 more in order to setup the 2nd sword farm on the right side of my house (25k)
Guild house, my 3rd sword farm, has 40 conveyor belts (20k)

Just the conveyor belts = 70k gralats
Switches = 35k and barriers = 10k

The total cost is 115k. I didn't have that amount immediately in order to build the 3 separate systems

It's like saying that college/uni students can't bring in laptops, because someone can't afford it
or a soccer mom telling the team's coach that their kid should be allowed to play just as much, if not more than their best player  

- *The "Are you there?" messages pop up.*
- *Player proceeds to spam the sword buttons due to not paying attention.*
- *Admin gets automatically notified and warps to the suspects.*
- *Admin drags the players to check for macro's/botting.*
- *Player proceeds to spam the sword buttons due to not paying attention.*
- Admin concludes subject is macroing/botting and bans players on the spot.
- *Player checks devices a little bit later and finds himself banned.*

This is my conclusion to what happened.
This is an incredibly flawed way of handling this though.

Aguzo should have been given time to react though and it also doesn't change the fact that the bans were given due to the admin thinking you can't spamclick on 3 accounts.

Sadly you can't get very indepth with detecting bots in a 2.5D game either way though.
Situations like this will probably keep happening due to bad detection and admins failing to properly identify these things.  

Posted by Eugeen

- *The "Are you there?" messages pop up.*
- *Player proceeds to spam the sword buttons due to not paying attention.*
- *Admin gets automatically notified and warps to the suspects.*
- *Admin drags the players to check for macro's/botting.*
- *Player proceeds to spam the sword buttons (for 1-2 seconds)*
- Admin concludes subject is macroing/botting and bans players on the spot.
- *Player checks devices a little bit later and finds himself banned.*
*Player see's that he's banned immediately, since his device was right next to him on the desk*

After I was dragged, 1-2 seconds (which was 5-10 sword slashes) I reacted, and typed "I'm not botting"
Unless the staff left immediately after dragging me, which wouldn't make sense

I also saw that I was banned at the time that I was banned, I wasn't away from my phone  

Closing thread because it's just turned to the same back and forth about you being banned.

Anyone who auto farms be careful to take the proper precaution, and I suggest you stick to one account.

Choosing to try and efficiently maintain two or more accounts by hand is at your own risk, especially three accounts due to how unlikely it actually is someone can pull that off for durations of time, and there should be no surprise that staff discourage this.