Posted by Master Shredder

Any other Legal agreements? Like any agreements stating their copyright like "the Grala Logo, and all X Content are Registered Trademarks of X Company name here/Rights Holder
Mentions nothing about it. yes i know it says Copyright graalonline 1998-2014 on the bottom.

It won't even let me see the Policies or Agreements/Docs lol it just says https://www.graalonline.com/docs/ Library Under Construction
Oops. Our Library is not yet available to the public. Please check back later.
Thanks for the assistance anyways though Snow noob and Yonce(: if you're able to any further.

Shut up nerd  

Posted by Master Shredder

Oh thanks,

I was told by staff a few years ago "Anything uploaded to Eurocenter,is owned by Eurocenter"
Just seeing if this is actually imprinted anywhere

In practice I don't think that can be enforced because copyright doesn't work that way or something.  

Posted by Zetectic

?? Lol are u ok?

Yeah man, I'm being sarcastic.

kek

But yea 100% im taking them to court yup. totallyyyy  

Posted by Master Shredder

Oh thanks,
I was told by staff a few years ago "Anything uploaded to Eurocenter,is owned by Eurocenter"
Just seeing if this is actually imprinted anywhere

Posted by Crono

In practice I don't think that can be enforced because copyright doesn't work that way or something.

NO. NO. NO! I don't know how this misinformation constantly continues. Graal management does a nice job in controlling this stuff. BUT, here's the truth. And if this post gets deleted or I get banned (worst case), I hope enough of you see this to stop spreading misinformation.

I'll use Graphics as an example because Levels, Scripts, etc. are more so useless out of Graal context. But ownership of Graphics solely belong to the artist, UNLESS

1) Paid for or given proper compensation for labor (Usually a contract or wage)
2) Given expressed consent or donation, via physical or verbal documentation, to hand over ownership interests. (Check marking a User Agreement or such does NOT give Graal owernship of your property)
3) The Graphics itself are plagiarized and copyrighted, of which nobody can claim for commercial purposes

Because Graal is using YOUR graphics for commercial purposes, i.e. to make money, YOU the artist have a right to take your graphics away if you want. There is NO "blanket" agreement, especially one that consists of check marking a User Agreement or Policy, that can strip you of ownership of your intellectual property. Graal can try to sue you for taking your graphics but unless you've been paid or given expressed consent, it is your property. The reason nobody has ever had a fight with Graal over this, is because graphics are usually made by teenagers that have no purpose for their stuff other than leaving it on Graal.  

@tzp But what I said doesn't disagree with you. I also don't think your post will get deleted, it's informative and not harmful in any way.  

Posted by tzp

NO. NO. NO! I don't know how this misinformation constantly continues. Graal management does a nice job in controlling this stuff. BUT, here's the truth. And if this post gets deleted or I get banned (worst case), I hope enough of you see this to stop spreading misinformation.

I'll use Graphics as an example because Levels, Scripts, etc. are more so useless out of Graal context. But ownership of Graphics solely belong to the artist, UNLESS

1) Paid for or given proper compensation for labor (Usually a contract or wage)
2) Given expressed consent or donation, via physical or verbal documentation, to hand over ownership interests. (Check marking a User Agreement or such does NOT give Graal owernship of your property)
3) The Graphics itself are plagiarized and copyrighted, of which nobody can claim for commercial purposes

Because Graal is using YOUR graphics for commercial purposes, i.e. to make money, YOU the artist have a right to take your graphics away if you want. There is NO "blanket" agreement, especially one that consists of check marking a User Agreement or Policy, that can strip you of ownership of your intellectual property. Graal can try to sue you for taking your graphics but unless you've been paid or given expressed consent, it is your property. The reason nobody has ever had a fight with Graal over this, is because graphics are usually made by teenagers that have no purpose for their stuff other than leaving it on Graal.

Hat Artists, and other levels items that are NOT deletable/sellable bodies,shields,public shields, and/or heads. Graal does kind of give you credit for them imo, If you put your copyright(AKA Name) on the file. i guess but nvm Thank for the Post though!  

Yeah.. everyone who says that "Graal owns/has rights to anything uploaded to it" has been lied to and is just spreading a false rumor. You can take your content with you wherever you want to outside of Graal, even if it was made using Graal's engine. I feel like that whole rumor was started back when Graal's source code and content we're being stolen and used for other projects and the rumor was spread as a sort of "crowd control".. but it's completely false.