New Scoreboards - 12

twilit · 01-05-2016

Posted by TeK

Pribably worldwide, don't need a player from Siberia getting a reward for 3k kills or 1k spar points and a player from the US getting nothing with 30k kills or 15k spar points.

Haha *VPNs to country with <100 graal players*

contego · 01-05-2016

I'd like to see one of the GS rooms changed into a GS streak room. =o

Thallen · 01-05-2016

WALL OF TEXT ALERT

One thing you guys need to consider when you're making suggestions from here on is that a restructured guild system and a player/guild achievement system is planned and eventually coming. That being said, suggesting temporary fixes or things that fall in between is kind of useless. Suggesting things that will compliment these changes is what you should be doing.
For example, my thread about spar/PK/BK rewards should be left alone now. Staff have announced rewards for seasonal leaderboards, and I'm sure there will be rewards for higher-tier achievements.

Here are some examples of suggestions I have that are vaguely related to the leaderboard change.

1. Create some building to commemorate history and statistics for the game
You guys keep suggesting that they bring back the all-time leaderboards, but Rufus doesn't seem to want to and he's made that clear. I'm all for preserving records and scores though. I do think that there should be an accessible building that has lists of the top 10-50 sparrers (wins), PKers, and BKers. I also think a place like this would be nice to maybe have lists or statues of all first place seasonal winners.

Rufus has mentioned this will very likely happen, but I'll just throw it out there because I definitely support that.

2. Completely put an end to device bias by holding a single GST
I quoted it as a troll before, but I actually would like this. Keyboardaphobia should be (and mostly is) dead by now. I'm honestly more afraid of facing a few iDevice teams. There are no longer split leaderboards by default. There are no longer PC and iDevice spar rooms.

Teams will no longer be forced to be of one device type. Mixed teams rarely incorporate iDevice players right now because they have their own tourney and they want to participate in that. However, just as a personal example, I can think of at least 2 iDevices that I'd immediately consider for my own Mixed team if they were available.

It's awkward to have two GSTs being held at the same time and seeding between two different tournaments based on a single leaderboard. I just don't see why it's necessary. Maybe if this happens, it lessens the load on staff enough to actually consider a singles tournament in the future.

With the new guild system eventually coming, guilds will function more naturally and, as a spar guild leader, I hate the idea that 14 (at minimum) of my guild roster spots are taken up by GST participants. In the new guild system, all guilds should be able to be competitive at guild sparring, towering, PKing, etc. Having an extra GST just seems completely unnecessary to me, especially when many iDevices have proven that they can compete.

3. Consider alternative ways to seed teams for the GST
I really think it should trickle down like this in some way:

GSTs won
GST rounds won
Guild spar points

If your tag has a GST win, you're seeded higher than teams with none
If two tags have the same number of GST wins, the team with the more GST rounds won is seeded higher
If two tags have the same number of GST wins and GST rounds won, the team with the most guild spar points is seeded higher

With how the GST is automated, I can see from a scripting standpoint how this could be easily achieved. This also encourages more natural guild function, as you'll have incentive to participate on the same tag (like a guild should do). This would allow us to have an activity-centric GS leaderboard, while guilds who deserve to be in the GST by their previous achievements are naturally seeded higher. You'd no longer have to boringly sit around sparring 200 noob teams every GST to qualify when you clearly deserve it.

David · 01-05-2016

A+ for implementing this tastefully. A big step in the right direction as far as competitive gameplay is concerned, while still having the casual player not feel discouraged.

contego · 01-05-2016

B-but a gs streak room.. =(

Reemas · 01-05-2016

Posted by Bryan*

Just add All-Time whatever in Mod Library in the future. There they have the first guilds to hit 1K, 5K, 10K, etc.

Exactly

regas · 01-05-2016

I think this is a great change. This will probably help smaller guilds get motivated to tower. And now people who like to spar will have the chance of being awarded for their efforts.

Droid · 01-05-2016

Please add back the link to leaderboards in profile, it was way more convenient when PKing or Sparring

Saber Alumba · 01-05-2016

You can't scrap idev gst ... PC has a clear advantage as a device atm and probably will alway have so it would be very unfair to just take out the idev tournament, specially with the state of the server pretty sure idevs are affected a lot more than PC players as far as i am aware?

Red · 01-05-2016

Posted by Saber Alumba

You can't scrap idev gst ... PC has a clear advantage as a device atm and probably will alway have so it would be very unfair to just take out the idev tournament, specially with the state of the server pretty sure idevs are affected a lot more than PC players as far as i am aware?

Take Primetime as an example how much your statement isn't really an excuse that holds up anymore, guys iDevice and has done mixed over and over again a fair bit. As far as I know he's pretty much the only "top tier" iDevice user to currently have done mixed gsts as often as he does.

Saber Alumba · 01-05-2016

Posted by OG

Take Primetime as an example how much your statement isn't really an excuse that holds up anymore, guys iDevice and has done mixed over and over again a fair bit. As far as I know he's pretty much the only "top tier" iDevice user to currently have done mixed gsts as often as he does.

You can't use one player as an example to disprove the whole point ...
Yes prime time does participate in the mixed tournament most of the time as an idev but he really is in the minority. Plus he is a USA player , they do not experience as much lagg / freze as other coutney idevs do as dar as i am aware.
If this would be to happen at all tho I wouldn't really care as long as they fix the stupid servers

Red · 01-05-2016

Also @thallen (to lazy to quote)
I pretty much think the same as you when it comes to seeding, this should of been done years ago to avoid having to spar 20000 noobs to qualify.
I believe seeding should work like this:
The 6 guilds who placed the previous GST are immediately seeded for the tournament so for example;
Mixed:
1st seed - Alumni
2nd seed - Apostles
3rd seed - Demon
That's all they need to implement, besides a hat, belt, news post and battle arena statue/main lobby news update I believe this "seeding" could be used as another prize given to those who place in the previous tournament.
Also I'd love to see the implementation of the winners statues being handed out to all members of the winning team to place in their house.

David M. · 01-05-2016

Posted by Saber Alumba

You can't use one player as an example to disprove the whole point ...
Yes prime time does participate in the mixed tournament most of the time as an idev but he really is in the minority. Plus he is a USA player , they do not experience as much lagg / freze as other coutney idevs do as dar as i am aware.
If this would be to happen at all tho I wouldn't really care as long as they fix the stupid servers

Im also an iDevice player from Europe, I mostly participate in mixed GSTs

Void · 01-05-2016

A penalty for losing a spar should be added, so it´s not just random guilds spamming recruit and winning in gs because they outnumber.
Another nice thing would be a gs streak room.
Would also be neat to see the rank of the guild directly in the profile instead of just the points.

Striken · 01-05-2016

Posted by Saber Alumba

You can't use one player as an example to disprove the whole point ...
Yes prime time does participate in the mixed tournament most of the time as an idev but he really is in the minority. Plus he is a USA player , they do not experience as much lagg / freze as other coutney idevs do as dar as i am aware.
If this would be to happen at all tho I wouldn't really care as long as they fix the stupid servers

What's your excuse then? If one player can do it, then others can as well.

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Thallen Enguard & Alumni Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 5,773	WALL OF TEXT ALERT One thing you guys need to consider when you're making suggestions from here on is that a restructured guild system and a player/guild achievement system is planned and eventually coming. That being said, suggesting temporary fixes or things that fall in between is kind of useless. Suggesting things that will compliment these changes is what you should be doing. For example, my thread about spar/PK/BK rewards should be left alone now. Staff have announced rewards for seasonal leaderboards, and I'm sure there will be rewards for higher-tier achievements. Here are some examples of suggestions I have that are vaguely related to the leaderboard change. 1. Create some building to commemorate history and statistics for the game You guys keep suggesting that they bring back the all-time leaderboards, but Rufus doesn't seem to want to and he's made that clear. I'm all for preserving records and scores though. I do think that there should be an accessible building that has lists of the top 10-50 sparrers (wins), PKers, and BKers. I also think a place like this would be nice to maybe have lists or statues of all first place seasonal winners. Rufus has mentioned this will very likely happen, but I'll just throw it out there because I definitely support that. 2. Completely put an end to device bias by holding a single GST I quoted it as a troll before, but I actually would like this. Keyboardaphobia should be (and mostly is) dead by now. I'm honestly more afraid of facing a few iDevice teams. There are no longer split leaderboards by default. There are no longer PC and iDevice spar rooms. Teams will no longer be forced to be of one device type. Mixed teams rarely incorporate iDevice players right now because they have their own tourney and they want to participate in that. However, just as a personal example, I can think of at least 2 iDevices that I'd immediately consider for my own Mixed team if they were available. It's awkward to have two GSTs being held at the same time and seeding between two different tournaments based on a single leaderboard. I just don't see why it's necessary. Maybe if this happens, it lessens the load on staff enough to actually consider a singles tournament in the future. With the new guild system eventually coming, guilds will function more naturally and, as a spar guild leader, I hate the idea that 14 (at minimum) of my guild roster spots are taken up by GST participants. In the new guild system, all guilds should be able to be competitive at guild sparring, towering, PKing, etc. Having an extra GST just seems completely unnecessary to me, especially when many iDevices have proven that they can compete. 3. Consider alternative ways to seed teams for the GST I really think it should trickle down like this in some way: GSTs won GST rounds won Guild spar points If your tag has a GST win, you're seeded higher than teams with none If two tags have the same number of GST wins, the team with the more GST rounds won is seeded higher If two tags have the same number of GST wins and GST rounds won, the team with the most guild spar points is seeded higher With how the GST is automated, I can see from a scripting standpoint how this could be easily achieved. This also encourages more natural guild function, as you'll have incentive to participate on the same tag (like a guild should do). This would allow us to have an activity-centric GS leaderboard, while guilds who deserve to be in the GST by their previous achievements are naturally seeded higher. You'd no longer have to boringly sit around sparring 200 noob teams every GST to qualify when you clearly deserve it.

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contego Çòñtëgó Me§§iaH Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 175	I'd like to see one of the GS rooms changed into a GS streak room. =o

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David of Orange Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 826	A+ for implementing this tastefully. A big step in the right direction as far as competitive gameplay is concerned, while still having the casual player not feel discouraged.

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regas Mostly Harmless Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 90	I think this is a great change. This will probably help smaller guilds get motivated to tower. And now people who like to spar will have the chance of being awarded for their efforts.

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Droid Graal Classic Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Battle Arena Posts: 855	Please add back the link to leaderboards in profile, it was way more convenient when PKing or Sparring

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Saber Alumba UNKO Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: UK Posts: 511	You can't scrap idev gst ... PC has a clear advantage as a device atm and probably will alway have so it would be very unfair to just take out the idev tournament, specially with the state of the server pretty sure idevs are affected a lot more than PC players as far as i am aware?

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Red Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 3,255	Also @thallen (to lazy to quote) I pretty much think the same as you when it comes to seeding, this should of been done years ago to avoid having to spar 20000 noobs to qualify. I believe seeding should work like this: The 6 guilds who placed the previous GST are immediately seeded for the tournament so for example; Mixed: 1st seed - Alumni 2nd seed - Apostles 3rd seed - Demon That's all they need to implement, besides a hat, belt, news post and battle arena statue/main lobby news update I believe this "seeding" could be used as another prize given to those who place in the previous tournament. Also I'd love to see the implementation of the winners statues being handed out to all members of the winning team to place in their house.

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Void loser Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: belle battle arena Posts: 86	A penalty for losing a spar should be added, so it´s not just random guilds spamming recruit and winning in gs because they outnumber. Another nice thing would be a gs streak room. Would also be neat to see the rank of the guild directly in the profile instead of just the points.