Posted by Godzilla

they dont really take towers in the first place. because the member limit in a guild is so small many times its necessary to expand. im making the argument that people dont value a guild. and the fact that people need to have so many branches in their guild, and recruit temps reflect this. im saying you should be selective. ive always been saying that. you shouldnt just recruit someone because they want to be in the guild, there should be some set requirements. this will lead to your member knowing eachother better, being more faithful because membership wasnt just given to them, and leaders wont have to kick people for every little thing.

You just described my guild NAL except they are none of those critical things. And I can say the same for CoM (actually made a new acc on another device to if they would RC and they did. I stayed for 5 days before revealing who I was.) now go somewhere else and rage.  

Irony, nufsed.  

Posted by sungwonc01

You just described my guild NAL except they are none of those critical things. And I can say the same for CoM (actually made a new acc on another device to if they would RC and they did. I stayed for 5 days before revealing who I was.) now go somewhere else and rage.

He just described every single guild in the top 10.  

That is asking for something that can not be done. In all honesty, Ch4rm IS THE ONLY somewhat good example of this. People will always be kicked for stupid, sometimes good reasons, but that is just how it goes. Till everyone can come to an agreement it is impossible.  

Posted by ellybelly

That is asking for something that can not be done. In all honesty, Ch4rm IS THE ONLY somewhat good example of this. People will always be kicked for stupid, sometimes good reasons, but that is just how it goes. Till everyone can come to an agreement it is impossible.

Lmao, yet another example of how you are completely oblivious to the way things are in the game itself.  

I don't believe I commented on this yet and I'm too lazy to read through over a hundred comments so I'm just going to respond to the thread itself. This game is lacking some loyal guilds. I see very few that show it's one of those guilds. In my opinion, the lack of loyal guilds is caused by the dramastic amount of guilds out there. The thoughts going through people's heads like "Why join a guild when I can make my own?" They then recruit friends or random people and it becomes inactive. A lot of people forget what have a guild is supposed to be about. FUN. You're supposed to make friends with guild members, do activities together, fight for each other, etc. I'm not going to name the guilds I see with this because there are probably more out there I just haven't seen.  

Posted by Pazx

He just described every single guild in the top 10.

No they dont value loyal members. They recruit everyone. They recruit temps.

Look this is how it is: I'd love for all guilds to be like US. No temps, 1 guild, close friends, etc. but that's not happening. The multiple guilds allied to make a bigger one will stay. However these guilds can ATLEAST can try to recruit all loyals. Make it so you need a recommendation to get in, interview them and ten do a trial period. People shouldn't just w recruited they should earn a recruit. Guilds don't need as many subs as they have to succeed. A guild with 3 subs of loyal members will beat a temp recruiting guild with 4 subs any day. Because the people in it like it, they earned their spot they're not just gonna throw it away.  

Posted by Godzilla

No they dont value loyal members. They recruit everyone. They recruit temps.

Look this is how it is: I'd love for all guilds to be like US. No temps, 1 guild, close friends, etc. but that's not happening. The multiple guilds allied to make a bigger one will stay. However these guilds can ATLEAST can try to recruit all loyals. Make it so you need a recommendation to get in, interview them and ten do a trial period. People shouldn't just w recruited they should earn a recruit. Guilds don't need as many subs as they have to succeed. A guild with 3 subs of loyal members will beat a temp recruiting guild with 4 subs any day. Because the people in it like it, they earned their spot they're not just gonna throw it away.

Dude you cannot change peoples ideals. No one is going to change the way they take towers if it works and believe me it works.  

Kids need to simmer down.  

guys, quit naming iphone guilds and adding them to the equation.
Guilds were meant to be as i said,
1.allies as actualy friendly guilds that you are not against
2.guild with 100% loyal members
3. members only kicked when they break rules
4. people are in 1 guild max at a time

instead?

1.allies are used as subs
2.members join any guild unset set randon tags,are loyal to dozens of guilds. Loyalty of iclassic=staying with the guild till you get 1k hat,
3. members are put into subs and kicked when offline
4.people are joining and leaving guilds like its nothing.
now you will fight me to the end because you dont want to be wrong but by doing the 2nd list of things are indeed abusing the way guild system were built to work.



No they dont value loyal members. They recruit everyone. They recruit temps.

Look this is how it is: I'd love for all guilds to be like US. No temps, 1 guild, close friends, etc. but that's not happening.
boom^ its not going to ever have a full effect due to ignorant people who kick+rec all there way to the big 1k.
but! if people start formulating into REAL guilds "like US" we can have some competion. Ventrue VS Charm was fun,
btw i am being a hypocrit bec i quit ventrue! but instead of going back to my old ways i joined knoble.

WHAT I AM GETTING TO
people should make there own loyalty guilds with the help of there friends. every great guild starts with 2-5 good friends.  

Posted by qes

competion. Ventrue VS Charm was fun,
btw i am being a hypocrit bec i got kicked from ventrue! but instead of going back to my old ways i joined knoble.

WHAT I AM GETTING TO
people should make there own loyalty guilds with the help of there friends. every great guild starts with 2-5 good friends.

Corrected it for you,You got kicked due to being in so many guilds,There for not being loyal so all this you have been posting up is pure hypocrisy,It's all bogus and lies.  

Posted by Gambit Drakul

Corrected it for you,You got kicked due to being in so many guilds,There for not being loyal so all this you have been posting up is pure hypocrisy,It's all bogus and lies.

What Gambit means is that you were kicked for being in too many guilds, and your posts are hypocritical.  

Rufus, like you know whats better for the majority; all your great updates only benifited a small amount of people in the game. Why don't you use your magical talents to fix major problems before your needs? That is the truth.  

lol false, i wanted to leave ventrue and i told angelus. than i went to my guild tag and went to bed overnight i was kicked and than i joined Knoble.

Posted by ellybelly

Rufus, like you know whats better for the majority; all your great updates only benifited a small amount of people in the game. Why don't you use your magical talents to fix major problems before your needs? That is the truth.

"small amount" that small amount happens to be the people who log on graal day after day to spar, and we never get spar updates. it was a big thing for that "small amount" and i think your on the wrong thread  

Posted by ellybelly

Rufus, like you know whats better for the majority; all your great updates only benifited a small amount of people in the game. Why don't you use your magical talents to fix major problems before your needs? That is the truth.

That's harsh.
From what i know Rufus has done a lot and i think he deserves some respect. I think his work has bennefited the whole server, not just a select few... His "needs" would be stuff he is passionate about or interested in. Why wouldn't he help in those areas? I'm not trying to get involved with your dispute, but i find that kind of rude.