just give the people who worked hard for SoN their rewards and quit being an egomaniac and making excuses, wouldn't be surprised if Kate had it in her to submit the 5k/10k list as just her and Aiden

and I'm quite sure it wasn't Kate herself who voluntarily renamed the guild, because I saw yesterday that she was added to the guild and then leadership was transferred to her in the midst of her being offline for 9 hours, so yeah

crappy person  

Posted by Zetectic

so you are saying being a part of Knight member helped you learn a lesson? but don't you think it's bit too much for 14k?

I suppose it did help me learn a lesson, it also changed my perspective on towering. Also, what do you mean by your second question?  

Posted by AngelRose

I suppose it did help me learn a lesson, it also changed my perspective on towering. Also, what do you mean by your second question?

imagine a member helped you through 14k hours, even for 'fun'. normal people would feel bad and give them something. She doesn't appreciate any of her members and kicked them all, unallied all the guilds cause she felt like it. that's not fair.  

Posted by Zetectic

imagine a member helped you through 14k hours, even for 'fun'. normal people would feel bad and give them something. She doesn't appreciate any of her members and kicked them all, unallied all the guilds cause she felt like it. that's not fair.

Oh ok :0

Anyways, it's terrible if you spent 14k hours of your life and you didn't even get anything. So yes, I guess it is too much if she did it for a 14k hr guild.  

Posted by Zetectic

imagine a member helped you through 14k hours, even for 'fun'. normal people would feel bad and give them something. She doesn't appreciate any of her members and kicked them all, unallied all the guilds cause she felt like it. that's not fair.

well said, this is how I feel.

For Voyage, almost immediately after the guild kicked off I felt responsible for everyone. I needed to keep track of who was doing the most for the guilds to promote them, I needed to stay on top of who fakes it and who earns it, I started to care about everyone else being happy rather than me milking it.

It ended up turning voyage into a democracy where we voted for everything on our website. Guild pictures, parties, decisions, alliances, guild hats, ect.

http://voyageforums.webs.com  

@Kendama, is that where you voted for the portable fan hat?  

Posted by Bryan*

@Kendama, is that where you voted for the portable fan hat?

We voted for the portable condom rotator yes.  

Posted by Kendama

It ended up turning voyage into a democracy where we voted for everything on our website. Guild pictures, parties, decisions, alliances, guild hats, ect

What if a person helped the guild a lot, but isn't socially active with other players?

Posted by Thallen

haha i guess she looked at the forum.  

she makes herself out to be more of a douche than any of you can, not a lot more to be discussed  

Posted by Thallen

she makes herself out to be more of a douche than any of you can, not a lot more to be discussed

she likes to be like this its kinda sad  

So much hate, if you have any complaints you should talk to Kate about it instead of talking to Each other when most of you don't even know what's going on

Find me on Graal, I'm in the guild Knight, Arise is Aidan's guild, not Kate's, things can go different with a different leader  

Posted by RegretWasThere

So much hate, if you have any complaints you should talk to Kate about it instead of talking to Each other when most of you don't even know what's going on

it's not "hate" to point this stuff out though

none of the people in this thread should have to talk to her either, she should be a considerate person and appreciate the people who helped SoN become successful instead of constantly pooping on them  

Posted by RegretWasThere

So much hate, if you have any complaints you should talk to Kate about it instead of talking to Each other when most of you don't even know what's going on

Find me on Graal, I'm in the guild Knight, Arise is Aidan's guild, not Kate's, things can go different with a different leader

:o.  

Posted by Thallen

she should be a considerate person and appreciate the people who helped SoN become successful instead of constantly pooping on them

She is a nice person though, when I was in Knight we would have games where we could win free gifts from Kate. She also said welcome back to me whenever I got back on.

Overall, she's not a mean person. I'm not hating on her, because she's nice if you get to know her. I don't wanna sound like a hat chaser here, but I just don't like how she didn't reward the hard workers in Knight and such, and I'm still not sure why she wouldn't give out Knight's 1k and etc. (Ik I gave an answer in one of my other posts but it was from my opinion.)  

Posted by AngelRose

She is a nice person though, when I was in Knight we would have games where we could win free gifts from Kate. She also said welcome back to me whenever I got back on.

Overall, she's not a mean person. I'm not hating on her, because she's nice if you get to know her. I don't wanna sound like a hat chaser here, but I just don't like how she didn't reward the hard workers in Knight and such, and I'm still not sure why she wouldn't give out Knight's 1k and etc. (Ik I gave an answer in one of my other posts but it was from my opinion.)

The "free" gifts sound like an incentive to keep you from leaving...