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Posted by Talon

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I'm happy?  

Posted by romario786

Nope my ksg is in perfet condition.

However snake seriously KSG still useless.

It has a SHIELD. A SHIELD. What, you want to have the KSG have 9 damage each bullet? Stop whining.  

Posted by DragonRider

It has a SHIELD. A SHIELD. What, you want to have the KSG have 9 damage each bullet? Stop whining.

...Okay and here you're wrong. Yes, it has a shield, but that doesn't mean it's a perfectly working shield, something you seem to assume here. If you have a starter pistol, that means you got a GUN. A GUN. (see what I did there?) Doesn't mean it does 10 damage, with low freeze and a big clip. I agree with Romario the KSG isn't as good as it is supposed to be, but since I dropped this whole argument I won't argue with anyone about that anymore. Though, what you just told isn't right and what does you make think he is whining? He just says it's still not what he would like to see in the KSG ;).  

Posted by Engel

...Okay and here you're wrong. Yes, it has a shield, but that doesn't mean it's a perfectly working shield, something you seem to assume here. If you have a starter pistol, that means you got a GUN. A GUN. (see what I did there?) Doesn't mean it does 10 damage, with low freeze and a big clip. I agree with Romario the KSG isn't as good as it is supposed to be, but since I dropped this whole argument I won't argue with anyone about that anymore. Though, what you just told isn't right and what does you make think he is whining? He just says it's still not what he would like to see in the KSG ;).

The shield still works. He can block bullets. I'm pretty sure that if you granted Romario's wish, the KSG would be overpowered and VERY unbalanced.  

Posted by DragonRider

The shield still works. He can block bullets. I'm pretty sure that if you granted Romario's wish, the KSG would be overpowered and VERY unbalanced.

I disagree.  

Posted by DragonRider

The shield still works. He can block bullets. I'm pretty sure that if you granted Romario's wish, the KSG would be overpowered and VERY unbalanced.

It's balanced and is more overpowered in a way, people who are whining, you bought a gun, if you don't know how to use it then train with it, don't just ask to make it better... Having to solo bases with it, which is for me, an over-powered gun.  

Posted by DragonRider

The shield still works. He can block bullets. I'm pretty sure that if you granted Romario's wish, the KSG would be overpowered and VERY unbalanced.

It doesn't block bullets, it reduces it's damage which just makes your life last a couple seconds longer, but with the low damage the KSG does you can't een kill your opponent, which doesn't make it a good weapon. It isn't overpowered, so you know what? Yóú stop whining it is ;).  

Posted by Engel

It doesn't block bullets, it reduces it's damage which just makes your life last a couple seconds longer, but with the low damage the KSG does you can't een kill your opponent, which doesn't make it a good weapon. It isn't overpowered, so you know what? Yóú stop whining it is ;).

Aw goodie, I'm not whining at anything, I don't want YOU whining about it again- its perfect as it is for its price, we ain't gonna add you a Bar with a Shield for 75k  

Posted by Johnaudi

Aw goodie, I'm not whining at anything, I don't want YOU whining about it again- its perfect as it is for its price, we ain't gonna add you a Bar with a Shield for 75k

Did I ask for a bar with a shield? Nope. Then why suggest I want one?
And if that is what you call whining- and you do - then probably 80% of this forum is so, I'm only defending my beliefs and you turn that into "whining"? Come with some better arguments, that's all you say. You're doing the exact same thing, but you have other beliefs. Different thing.  

The problem with the current blocking system (Taking a % of damage off) is that because hp and damage figures are so low, it's very hard to adjust without making it very overpowered or underpowered one way or the other.

I mean, I can get it reverted to the old system if you really want too - but there would have to be a general populace vote on the matter before anything changes since it only seems to be one person that wants any changes at all  

Do it  

Posted by Jester Lapse

Do it

Push the red button!!

NOW!  

Posted by SnakeRekon

The problem with the current blocking system (Taking a % of damage off) is that because hp and damage figures are so low, it's very hard to adjust without making it very overpowered or underpowered one way or the other.

I mean, I can get it reverted to the old system if you really want too - but there would have to be a general populace vote on the matter before anything changes since it only seems to be one person that wants any changes at all

Hey even if it was low damage, people still hide next to it while shooting others/won't make a difference
If you(snk) could add an extra shield to go with the KSG for a fair price, it could make it block from 40-60% bullets? I don't want to go in gang spar again and seeing a KSG user with his member /the member shooting and the KSG user protecting him without taking any damage.