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Posted by Ph8

If you are being told as a staff member to do something that is absolutely against everything you stand for, then sure, its probably time to fight it or quit. This doesn't mean that every time you have a slight disagreement over the way something is done you should just say screw it and do what you want. That would be a huge, huge mess.

That's what I mean. Of course don't just do what you want all the time, but say your opinion and if you are really really against it like you said, fight against it even if there's a chance you'll be fired.  

Agree. A PR came to my house because I needed help and all he said was "I don't have the rights" and warped away.  

Posted by Shawn

Agree. A PR came to my house because I needed help and all he said was "I don't have the rights" and warped away.

He should have asked for someone with the rights to help you, but if he litterally didn't have the rights he may have not had the option to do it or be able to do what you asked.  

Theres a difference between sharing our opinions and physically being able to do something. I'm all for sharing my opinion but there are certain things that I am physically not able to do or allowed to do (i.e. Watching/ helping with trades, giving out items, ect.)  

Posted by NCJohn

Theres a difference between sharing our opinions and physically being able to do something. I'm all for sharing my opinion but there are certain things that I am physically not able to do or allowed to do (i.e. Watching/ helping with trades, giving out items, ect.)

I agree, like really youre going to criticize a PRA for not doing something he's not allowed to do? That is stupid Higbey Im sorry. Im kind of getting a mixed message from your OP.

Now if you get fired for simply sharing an opinion then yeah there is something wrong there, but I dont think that is present on the iPhone servers nor have I ever heard anything like that or witnessed it.
Obviously if the person sharing their opinion was rude,vulgar, or plain immature then that would be a different matter.  

Hmm, I don't understand this thread at all... Give an example of what you mean.

You're making it sound like there are awful things happening behind the scenes that we should cause anarchy over. If I have an opinion, I say it. I don't think any of the staff feel oppressed.  

Posted by Yephenpeace

Hmm, I don't understand this thread at all... Give an example of what you mean.

You're making it sound like there are awful things happening behind the scenes that we should cause anarchy over. If I have an opinion, I say it. I don't think any of the staff feel oppressed.

Yeah exactly, the message of this thread isn't really clear :p  

I told you the other day that I should just replace the tileset on Classic with the original one and not care what upper management think. You said "but you know it would just be changed back" and I'd be removed for doing it. What exactly would I have achieved in letting that hawk go?  

Posted by Rufus

I told you the other day that I should just replace the tileset with the original one and not care what upper management think. You said "but you know it would just be changed back" and I'd be removed for doing it. What exactly would I have achieved in letting that hawk go?

The hawk could befriend you and hunt for you.  

Of course. Like in the hunger games.

Wait. Wrong movie >:O  

Posted by Rufus

I told you the other day that I should just replace the tileset on Classic with the original one and not care what upper management think. You said "but you know it would just be changed back" and I'd be removed for doing it. What exactly would I have achieved in letting that hawk go?

If you could talk to Stefan about it, but I don't want you to get fired for just changing it because he would just change it back like with the PK in graal city, you need to talk to him about it and show your opinion. Rufus, we both know you have no problem showing your opinions your attitude actually inspired this thread. Plus, I have a feeling youd save it for doing something knowing you will be fired for when you are ready and it's something really big to take a stand on.  

This thread makes me lol.

You're trying to relate things between your opinion, and a certain sort of business. The two are very different, and in my opinion, it sounds like you simply have issues with authority figures, or are quite underage?

Simply doing something because you think it's right is why religion is so rampant these days. You claim to be more liberal but you act like this? The hierarchy is there to show that those who better understand the situations can correctly make sure they are dealt with properly by those who deal with them. It is not a democracy.

Expressing your opinion and why you think it should be taken into consideration is great. Taking it upon yourself to enact it for your own reasons and opinion, is not.  

Since when do you have to work in he'll? What, is it like Disgaea?  

A GPs job is to enforce the rules. A Graphics admin makes graphics. A Levels admin makes levels, and so on and so forth.

Everyone can make suggestions, and everyone can stand up for certain things.  

Posted by Higbey

I've seen it so many times now.
"we aren't allowed." "i cant do that" "(upper staff member) wont let us"

i hate seeing this, you can do this stuff, you can, you can tell your upper staff members your opinion, you can go against them, you can do the right thing. its no excuse that someone "above" you wont "allow" you. i think some of you people need to realize that sometimes following orders isn't the right thing to do.

you have your opinion, you have the power, you need to realize you can give a bigger push than you think. you can put your foot down, even to someone like Stefan. if they fire you for it, they lose out on a good staff member, and then they are in the wrong, and you can let everyone know it.

every time you say that you aren't allowed to or are told not to do something, you are simply saying that you don't want to do it. I'm tired of people acting like they are powerless. you can do a lot more than you think if you force it. stop being cowards. a superior that fires someone for showing their opinion and doing what is right is someone not fit to be a superior.

don't say its not how real life works, I've argued with my boss into letting a hawk "escape" because its enclosure was so small and it wasn't having a life worth living, when he denied i went out there and let that hawk free. i went back in and told them, and they came out and said that i did the right thing, and that i obviously care enough about the animals well fare, and that as long as i didn't release any more animals he wouldn't take any action.

that hawk now has a better life. i still have my job. i could have just not spoken up, i could have not released it. i could have lied and said it escaped one day. but i didn't.

you guys don't seem to understand what you can get away with.

if its what players need, what players want, what the right thing to do is, and its perfectly understandable and good, then you do it. i understand its not worth getting in trouble for in all the occasions, but you aren't powerless. take it from a player. take it from a person who has been in positions before. do whats right. not what one overly controlling person in charge wants.

Dare to do whats right. don't just be a opinion-less minion. who is with me?!

p.s. man i missed writing these.

Shut up, your obviously very messed up in the head if you think that not following orders, regardless of the situation is something to look up to.

Posted by PoeticFolly

Where's the "I don't really care" option?

Agreed

Posted by PerfectDark

You must have some kind of opinion on this issue? Mine is that I like a staff member who has a 'backbone', and whom shares his/her opinion on a subject in a mature manner without fear of prosecution.

*cough* snake rekon *cough*


Now on to Higbey once again.
My dad once told me that if you think you could do it better go borrow money from the bank and fken buy your own business; this applies here to, if you think you can do a better job, THEN GO DO IT. You whine and cry about every little thing staff do, but your reluctant to leave. Stefen and unimaxd made a great game, which your obviously addicted to since you care so much about it.
Your not a demon, your just some Whiney kid who crys whenever he doesn't get his own way.
FK OFF NO ONE NEEDS YOU HERE ANYWAY!

Oh and just to sum up the statement;
Regardless of what Era changes, you'll always find something to be a whiney bitch about.
It's no wonder people don't actually like you. You whine and turn everything into some malicious attack or cries that the game is pay to win. It's so very sad Higbey