The W's: What Went Wrong? - 2

fUnK · 05-18-2017

I like that thread title. That's all I have to add to this topic

PigParty · 05-18-2017

Posted by Weeno

Y players hate on every new manager. It was only a few months ago when chelt was looked upon like hitler and now blacks.

i'd refer you to the post about basketball. Imagine the Cavs hired a 19 year old Walmart employee to be head coach. Blackfires is the 19 year old Walmart employee, and Zone is the Cavs. Well, Zone isn't actually the Cavs. Zone's more like the Lakers, but that means the Lakers, who need more help than most teams, hired a 19 year old Walmart cashier as head coach.

WaFFL3Cake · 05-19-2017

So it seems like you guys blame management. Instead of naming names, what were some bad decisions that were made, like this new Leo for example?

And if the case is Person A left/put person B in charge, just say some stuff that Person B did (again without naming names) that dug Zone's hole deeper

Weeno · 05-19-2017

Posted by PigParty

i'd refer you to the post about basketball. Imagine the Cavs hired a 19 year old Walmart employee to be head coach. Blackfires is the 19 year old Walmart employee, and Zone is the Cavs. Well, Zone isn't actually the Cavs. Zone's more like the Lakers, but that means the Lakers, who need more help than most teams, hired a 19 year old Walmart cashier as head coach.

PigParty · 05-20-2017

Posted by WaFFL3Cake

So it seems like you guys blame management. Instead of naming names, what were some bad decisions that were made, like this new Leo for example?

And if the case is Person A left/put person B in charge, just say some stuff that Person B did (again without naming names) that dug Zone's hole deeper

Usually it's the lack of things being done that is the problem. I guess one recent thing for Blackfires is that he fired Shmegg (one of the most loyal, long-time staff for Zone) because Shmegg publicly agreed with someone else's criticism of Zone.

And let's not even get into how bad Chelt was.

I'm fine with naming names. We shouldn't pretend that people serving Zone are untouchable and shouldn't be held accountable. If they screw up, they should be called out for it. That's what comes with taking a staff position, it opens you up to personal accountability.

Yog · 05-20-2017

Zone isn't going to improve so long as we have a ****ty manager in charge.

*Colin · 05-20-2017

Posted by WaFFL3Cake

So it seems like you guys blame management. Instead of naming names, what were some bad decisions that were made, like this new Leo for example?

The squad reward system and the fight club 'rewards' were also a bad decision. He switched the requirement to 2,000 base hours for a squad to earn a hat and added worthless rewards afterwards that no one seems to want. A toy, seriously?

He probably had the mindset that since it is so easy to take bases on Zone with a group of friends, that they should earn double the hours it takes than on a more populated server like Classic. Let's not forget that 1,000 hours is still a LOT of time to spend on something.

WaFFL3Cake · 05-20-2017

I remember one project was the new tileset :0 was that abandoned?

CaptainOscar · 05-20-2017

Posted by WaFFL3Cake

I remember one project was the new tileset :0 was that abandoned?

Nope, just a bit slower than expected, and by a a bit I mean A LOT slower.

TWIZ · 05-20-2017

Zone is ****

PigParty · 05-20-2017

A paint job won't fix Zone and I think every manager has known that. They need activities, jobs, etc. that are new and related to the new theme/tileset (hopefully a new theme) and Zone doesn't have much, if any scripting resources at their disposal. I wouldn't blame them if the tileset holdup was because they want other stuff released with the tileset, but can't develop those other things.

GenoIndeed · 05-21-2017

They also need knowledge about gaming in general, knowing what makes and breaks a game and why

Graaklik · 05-25-2017

Bring back the boss fights and quests

Weeno · 05-26-2017

What do players like? Pvp and action. A touch of social aspect here and there, with a little bit of storyline and quests. But do not forget about quality. Appearance definitely affects how a player is attached to the game, so we need to work on visual appearance but not too much. Only thing visually attracting players now are some guns, alien ships, and missions.

Ethacon · 05-26-2017

Zone is now a hopeless piece of crap that can't be helped or fixed, end of story.

Good luck trying to make it better even though that won't help you either.

05-18-2017	16
fUnK ZUSN Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: ? Posts: 334	I like that thread title. That's all I have to add to this topic

05-19-2017	18
WaFFL3Cake Baddy Killer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: United States Posts: 582	So it seems like you guys blame management. Instead of naming names, what were some bad decisions that were made, like this new Leo for example? And if the case is Person A left/put person B in charge, just say some stuff that Person B did (again without naming names) that dug Zone's hole deeper

05-20-2017	21
Yog Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,468	Zone isn't going to improve so long as we have a ****ty manager in charge.

05-20-2017	25
TWIZ Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: fighting alt-right Posts: 2,570	Zone is ****

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PigParty PigParty🐷 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: PigPen Posts: 2,913	A paint job won't fix Zone and I think every manager has known that. They need activities, jobs, etc. that are new and related to the new theme/tileset (hopefully a new theme) and Zone doesn't have much, if any scripting resources at their disposal. I wouldn't blame them if the tileset holdup was because they want other stuff released with the tileset, but can't develop those other things.

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GenoIndeed Dream Machine Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 761	They also need knowledge about gaming in general, knowing what makes and breaks a game and why

05-25-2017	28
Graaklik For Rosewald! Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: I wished I lived near Rosewald :,( Posts: 308	Bring back the boss fights and quests

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Weeno Guy who gets roasted Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: behind u Posts: 3,598	What do players like? Pvp and action. A touch of social aspect here and there, with a little bit of storyline and quests. But do not forget about quality. Appearance definitely affects how a player is attached to the game, so we need to work on visual appearance but not too much. Only thing visually attracting players now are some guns, alien ships, and missions.

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Ethacon Banned Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,561	Zone is now a hopeless piece of crap that can't be helped or fixed, end of story. Good luck trying to make it better even though that won't help you either.