Hell, I remember when HomelessWitch would base with unreleased weapons and items. My opinion, no. They shouldn't be allowed to own a basing gang.  

Posted by JakeRage

Hell, I remember when HomelessWitch would base with unreleased weapons and items. My opinion, no. They shouldn't be allowed to own a basing gang.

just another example of abuse.

most people who are voting on this poll arent into competitive basing or apart of those kind of gangs so its a non issue to them.  

Posted by K!LLA KEV

as long as they cant be logged into both accounts at same time. thats only way to make it fair. you shouldnt be allowed to be on admin account and be logged into another device basing at same time.

too much potential for abuse. ive seen it.

Yes I see your point. They shouldn't be able to base with both accounts at same time, if that's how I'm reading it right.  

Posted by Mystickk

Yes I see your point. They shouldn't be able to base with both accounts at same time, if that's how I'm reading it right.

well just being logged on an "admin" account, for example, you can hide yourself in a base , invisible to all, and then use your say...iphone account, and base with that, while being logged into your admin account hidden. you can drag people away, you can scout and spy on other gangs inside bases, you can jail people or warn people for no apparent reason, using your admin account, while still using your iphone account to base.

if you dont think someone who owns and run a top 5 basing gang or bases competitively wouldnt use that to their advantage, well then your just crazy and naive.  

It's a mixed debate.

I personally am ashamed of what sK and Hearts have come to when you two fought. She's resorted to abusing her warp powers to get her and her members into the flag room. It just ruins the whole concept and is absolutely despicable. When reported to Auron or snk they don't even reply.

Also Pixel Ravenix abuses his powers to help his gang dig. They'll go to a popular digging spot, and he'll warp away anyone who comes near. His excuse when caught was "the PKers are annoying"...

Lol. There is also the unstoppable advantage that several people will abandon their gangs just to be in an admin gang.


But I find no harm in gangs like Z-Room, Arnix, Ciprioni, and Caeser that are social. (Note: I do know that Z-Room has been passed on to a normal player.)

So it's a really tricky situation.
I'd have to say no to admins owning gangs though. Because when admins are caught abusing powers to help their gangs do things, they get a small wrist slap. Even if it's their 100th time caught.  

Posted by K!LLA KEV

well just being logged on an "admin" account, for example, you can hide yourself in a base , invisible to all, and then use your say...iphone account, and base with that, while being logged into your admin account hidden. you can drag people away, you can scout and spy on other gangs inside bases, you can jail people or warn people for no apparent reason, using your admin account, while still using your iphone account to base.

if you dont think someone who owns and run a top 5 basing gang or bases competitively wouldnt use that to their advantage, well then your just crazy and naive.

I didn't say that they wouldn't do that, but it wouldn't be fair, you have your views on it and they're reasonable to why admins shouldn't have a gang, but if they're not using it for basing, with both accounts, then I don't see anything wrong with it. But of course, if they do what you said I'm sure they'll get fired and if they haven't, and HAVE done that, then that's unfair for everyone else who bases fairly.

I see you've thought about this quite a bit and I'm with you on the whole basing gang situation.  

Admins are players therefore they have the right to own and run a gang. However they need to be put on a short leash and MUST base legitimatly meaning no bribing people to join and admin gives you a BAR or a ultra rare unreleased item, giving out guns for free to there gang, forcing people to join their gangs (alfonse did that to me once when i was taking his base), and no using admin to cheat in bases exp going into a base with 10k HP.  

Pfft...Only try-hards go basing with 10k hp. It's called 0 hp and invincibility.  

Oh i also forgot to add this to my list
NO FKING JAILING OR WARPING PEOPLE WHEN THEY SOLO YOUR BASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
that was specificaly towards celestial. Most abusive admins ever, i have been jailed by them 4 times for soloing them. Iceman gets jailed whenever he steps foot into base its actually funny.  

Posted by 99%

It's a mixed debate.

I personally am ashamed of what sK and Hearts have come to when you two fought. She's resorted to abusing her warp powers to get her and her members into the flag room. It just ruins the whole concept and is absolutely despicable. When reported to Auron or snk they don't even reply.

Also Pixel Ravenix abuses his powers to help his gang dig. They'll go to a popular digging spot, and he'll warp away anyone who comes near. His excuse when caught was "the PKers are annoying"...

Lol. There is also the unstoppable advantage that several people will abandon their gangs just to be in an admin gang.


But I find no harm in gangs like Z-Room, Arnix, Ciprioni, and Caeser that are social. (Note: I do know that Z-Room has been passed on to a normal player.)

So it's a really tricky situation.
I'd have to say no to admins owning gangs though. Because when admins are caught abusing powers to help their gangs do things, they get a small wrist slap. Even if it's their 100th time caught.

your right, it is a tricky situation, and i maybe should have rephrased things a bit, there is no harm in owning a social gang or a pk gang or a fun gang, but to be an admin, and own an ultra competitive basing gang, and abuse powers to give you an advantage, they become almost untouchable in regard to any kind of punishment, especially if your good with the "higher-ups".

thats why i believe the inability to be allowed to be on both an admin account and be basing on another device at the same time would prevent any kind of abuse. As well as the inability to be on any gang tag when on admin account (they currently have the ability to put themselves on ANY tag they want). they should have to sign in or something so everyone is aware they are on their admin account so if they are on their other account they would be reprimanded.  

How about instead we fire those fkers who abuse powers, bam problem solved  

Posted by Mystickk

I didn't say that they wouldn't do that, but it wouldn't be fair, you have your views on it and they're reasonable to why admins shouldn't have a gang, but if they're not using it for basing, with both accounts, then I don't see anything wrong with it. But of course, if they do what you said I'm sure they'll get fired and if they haven't, and HAVE done that, then that's unfair for everyone else who bases fairly.

I see you've thought about this quite a bit and I'm with you on the whole basing gang situation.

I have a bit more insight on this than most people, because i know what hearts could do and did as an admin when i was in sk, and they are the same things she does against me now that im against sk. plenty of people will verify those things (plenty who arent in my gang) . she is not the only admin to abuse powers, but she is a prime example of someone who shouldnt be allowed to operate a gang while being an admin, or be logged into both accounts at same time.

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

How about instead we fire those fkers who abuse powers, bam problem solved

that works too.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Oh i also forgot to add this to my list
NO FKING JAILING OR WARPING PEOPLE WHEN THEY SOLO YOUR BASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
that was specificaly towards celestial. Most abusive admins ever, i have been jailed by them 4 times for soloing them. Iceman gets jailed whenever he steps foot into base its actually funny.

I highly doubt that  

It's a shame there are admins that would abuse the power they are given just for basing. However, not all admins should suffer for this.

I understand where you are coming from with this, there's always going to be that slight want from players about disbanding their gangs for a chance to join an admins, it's the same with guilds on iClassic and im sure it is the same with squads on iZone.

The fact is though, admins were first and foremost players so they have just as much to play the game as you do. It's not fair to them to stop playing the game they enjoy just because administrative responsibility has been bestowed upon them.

I thought of a concept for this... a man is trying to become world famous from his job, he might be an actor or whatever.. he has friends, family, loved ones etc. This feat actually happens and he becomes world famous, everybody knows him, loves him etc. but does he still not deserve the privacy or to keep what he has with friends just because he has become famous? (I think this concept works... )  

It's a shame there are admins that would abuse the power they are given just for basing. However, not all admins should suffer for this.

I understand where you are coming from with this, there's always going to be that slight want from players about disbanding their gangs for a chance to join an admins, it's the same with guilds on iClassic and im sure it is the same with squads on iZone.

The fact is though, admins were first and foremost players so they have just as much to play the game as you do. It's not fair to them to stop playing the game they enjoy just because administrative responsibility has been bestowed upon them.

I thought of a concept for this... a man is trying to become world famous from his job, he might be an actor or whatever.. he has friends, family, loved ones etc. This feat actually happens and he becomes world famous, everybody knows him, loves him etc. but does he still not deserve the privacy or to keep what he has with friends just because he has become famous? (I think this concept works... )