Posted by Rufus

Unfortunately, yes. When Dusty and I were working on Classic iPhone pre-release we were told by Stefan that we had to replace all Zelda-like tiles. I assume this is why iClassic looks like what it does now.

It still looks like Zelda. All you did was a freaking recolor of the house and tiles. i really don't see any difference whatsoever.  

They don't want **** with nintendo again, so they get paranoid about anything looking zelda-esque.  

Posted by Chaotic

They don't want **** with nintendo again, so they get paranoid about anything looking zelda-esque.

It still does look like zelda!
Zelda: The tiles! The characters! The sword! The Bomb! The arrows!
Nintendo: iPikachu! Delibird and Koopa Troopa head!
And the fact that Speedybond has a mario body?

Theres more i can say but i think thats already enough. If Nintendo ever looks at Graal Classic again, theres going to be an entire war of it and Graal Classic will be forced to shut down. Graal Classic already has Nintendo slapped all over it except the licenses so basically yea... It still looks like Zelda and don't change that fact as it will stay permanently  

Oh right pardon me i forgot all 2d games look like/copy zelda my bad  

You awake abruptly, drenched in sweat. You had a dream of your mother and father, you don't remember them very well now, they were killed by the baddies when you were two. Your stomach growls, you haven't eaten for a while. The food in the orphanage is running low, you've been giving your rations to the younger children. All of the others are still asleep. Sister Gertrude quietly knocks on the door. You sense that you know what this is about. When you open the door Sister Gertrude says that due to the baddies blocking off the bridge to Graal City the kids in the orphanage may starve because the food cannot be sent down anymore. She then explains a secret passage under 'The Joint' in the storage area. She says she has no idea what might lay ahead, but that you are the only hope. She briefly disappears and then comes back with a glimmering sword with a beautifully crafted red handle. 'This-This, was your F-Father's sword' she says choking back tears, she had always felt bad for you. You take the precious piece of metal and head out for your adventure.  

Posted by Chaotic

Oh right pardon me i forgot all 2d games look like/copy zelda my bad

....
Look at this video..

Now Dare to compare within the first 60-80 seconds...  

@seeker
Parents killed by baddies: sent to orphanage.

Sounds like classic

Oh and fathers sword
Just add the part where you take soup to a creepy hermit and youre spot on  

Posted by Chaotic

They don't want **** with nintendo again, so they get paranoid about anything looking zelda-esque.

The graphics are not any edit, or even close to Zelda graphics. Legally a claim of copyright infringement from those tiles alone would not hold up in any court. It doesn't matter if it "looks sort of like Zelda!" That's not how copyright infringement works. There are games out there that are blatant copies of Zelda(like 3D Dot Heroes, which is quite popular and on the PS3) and Nintendo can't do a thing about it.  

It looks sort of like seemed to work for skyrims v. Notch  

Posted by Maikeru

It still does look like zelda!
Zelda: The tiles!

Not stolen. Plenty of games surprisingly have grass, houses, castles, bushes.

Posted by Maikeru

The characters!

I see no NPCs named Link, or Zelda, or Ganon. Ever play WoW?
http://www.wowwiki.com/Linken
Surely they'd pursue a lawsuit against such a huge game, right? I mean his name is Linken. He has a sword, a boomerang. He wears a green tunic for God's sake! OMG IT'S TOTALLY STOLEN. No. Because they can't.

Posted by Maikeru

The sword!

It's a ****ing sword.

Posted by Maikeru

The Bomb! The arrows!

See above, they can't copyright that crap.

Posted by Maikeru

Nintendo: iPikachu! Delibird and Koopa Troopa head!
And the fact that Speedybond has a mario body?

This sort of thing falls mainly on the individual managers/staff uploading this stuff. Can Graal be held accountable? Yes, but this is just staff(aka people like you) having stupid judgement. However, you can bypass copyright by 1) not using trademarks and 2) not infringing on copyrighted designs. A red hat can not be copyrighted. A red hat with a white circle and a big "M" can. Avoid the big "M" and you're good to go.

Posted by Maikeru

If Nintendo ever looks at Graal Classic again, theres going to be an entire war of it and Graal Classic will be forced to shut down.

No it won't. If Nintendo finds something wrong, they will send a Cease and Desist about whatever is causing problems and from there Unix and co. can choose to fight it, or remedy the problem(remove the troubled graphics). In this case, the tileset would not be a problem, and they should fight it. However, if some stupid staff uploaded a Pikachu hat, called it a Pikachu hat, then yes, they should remove that.  

Posted by Chaotic

It looks sort of like seemed to work for skyrims v. Notch

That had to do more with trademarks than copyright, and Bethesda never had a case to begin with. They were probably hoping to simply win it via intimidation(like most C&D orders), but Notch didn't back down(good for him).  

Posted by Chaotic

@seeker
Parents killed by baddies: sent to orphanage.

Sounds like classic

Oh and fathers sword
Just add the part where you take soup to a creepy hermit and youre spot on

It's supposed to Classic. It would use the same overworld. The story won't be exactly the same.  

Posted by Dusty

Not stolen. Plenty of games surprisingly have grass, houses, castles, bushes.

I see no NPCs named Link, or Zelda, or Ganon. Ever play WoW?
http://www.wowwiki.com/Linken
Surely they'd pursue a lawsuit against such a huge game, right? I mean his name is Linken. He has a sword, a boomerang. He wears a green tunic for God's sake! OMG IT'S TOTALLY STOLEN. No. Because they can't.


It's a ****ing sword.

See above, they can't copyright that crap.


This sort of thing falls mainly on the individual managers/staff uploading this stuff. Can Graal be held accountable? Yes, but this is just staff(aka people like you) having stupid judgement. However, you can bypass copyright by 1) not using trademarks and 2) not infringing on copyrighted designs. A red hat can not be copyrighted. A red hat with a white circle and a big "M" can. Avoid the big "M" and you're good to go.


No it won't. If Nintendo finds something wrong, they will send a Cease and Desist about whatever is causing problems and from there Unix and co. can choose to fight it, or remedy the problem(remove the troubled graphics). In this case, the tileset would not be a problem, and they should fight it. However, if some stupid staff uploaded a Pikachu hat, called it a Pikachu hat, then yes, they should remove that.

Wow... I can't believe you're actually so dumb enough to claim this as a "original" game...
Play Zelda then Play Graal Classic... Look at the Similarities!
The way the game plays, looks, and how the characters fight are clearly the same sh*t as what it shows on Zelda! Look at how Link slashes his sword, shoots his arrow, pick up items, picks up and tosses the bomb, walks, dies, pushes, and pulls objects... go compare it to Graal Classic! I dare you to go against me and tell me a difference between them... You know they're exactly the same!

Stop trying to be the lawyer here and take a good look at the similarities again.. And for the love of god, don't say that anything is original as long as its edited a little. Fine, let me take your sprites, Color them red and blue, then originally claim them mine. Thats pretty much the same sh*t you're telling me here..

Its not only copyright when characters or property of nintendo are being used but its also copyright when a game plays the same exact thing as Zelda. Don't try to make a F*cking difference between the games because one is online and the others one not..

Congrats mister "I think its not zelda because all game have bushes" critic... But you are defending a poorly executed paintjob of a zelda clone here... If you wish to continue speaking, i'd be glad to respond against your invalid arguments..  

Posted by Maikeru

Congrats mister "I think its not zelda because all game have bushes" critic... But you are defending a poorly executed paintjob of a zelda clone here... If you wish to continue speaking, i'd be glad to respond against your invalid arguments..

Never said it wasn't a clone, simply said that there is no legal basis for them to be worried here. And no, you can't copyright gameplay, or did you not know that? I don't think you knew that.

 

There is such a thing. Graal PC Playerworlds!