Posted by fsh

I'd like if the trees and vines were sold as furniture

leave my trees alone  

I feedbacked that earlier  

Expected it to be bit better(more stuff) to be honest least it's an update I suppose. I like the bush juggle and level the most  

Posted by Tunder

All of the nature guns are outclassed by existing guns. None of them are viable competitive options.

Currently viable spar/pk guns:
- Streamer: 5 dmg, fastest fire rate, frenzy boosts it to 6 dmg
- Green/Red Rifle: 6 dmg, moderately fast fire rate
- Egg Launcher: 7 dmg, slow fire rate, non-automatic
- Chaingun: 4 dmg, rapid fire rate, bullets spread and are hard to avoid

For example, why would someone ever buy the watermelon gun? Its slower and more expensive than the Green and Red rifles without dealing more damage.

The Apple launcher is more expensive than the Poison Vine, but has no advantage and it shoots slower.

The Apple Launcher and Grass Gun are both outclassed by the LR Pulsar, a 1500 graalat gun. The Poison Gun and Flower Gun (5 dmg each) are both outclassed by the Enraged rifle (6 dmg), and yet they both cost more than the enraged rifle.

As of the moment I wouldn't suggest anyone buy a gun from the nature shop. The existing guns are cheaper and better.

This^^^^  

Does zone have a guns admin?  

Posted by Hayze

Does zone have a guns admin?

I believe its tashkin not really sure  

Posted by Hayze

Does zone have a guns admin?

no.  

Cool stuff everyone Congrats to the players who made them!  

The nature shop guns are more for show rather than to use in pvp for me. But what would you expect. They aren't going to put good stats on player made guns, hehe

Posted by Hayze

Does zone have a guns admin?

They should lel  

I'm only gonna buy the Leaf Dagger, it's sexy ! Good job guis  

Posted by Tunder

All of the nature guns are outclassed by existing guns. None of them are viable competitive options.

Currently viable spar/pk guns:
- Streamer: 5 dmg, fastest fire rate, frenzy boosts it to 6 dmg
- Green/Red Rifle: 6 dmg, moderately fast fire rate
- Egg Launcher: 7 dmg, slow fire rate, non-automatic
- Chaingun: 4 dmg, rapid fire rate, bullets spread and are hard to avoid

For example, why would someone ever buy the watermelon gun? Its slower and more expensive than the Green and Red rifles without dealing more damage.

The Apple launcher is more expensive than the Poison Vine, but has no advantage and it shoots slower.

The Apple Launcher and Grass Gun are both outclassed by the LR Pulsar, a 1500 graalat gun. The Poison Gun and Flower Gun (5 dmg each) are both outclassed by the Enraged rifle (6 dmg), and yet they both cost more than the enraged rifle.

As of the moment I wouldn't suggest anyone buy a gun from the nature shop. The existing guns are cheaper and better.

Thank you for this.. for some reason I would have sworn the Green/Red rifle were only 5 dmg which is why I set the dmg to what they are. I just rechecked and you were right. I will adjust the nature shop weapons accordingly. However, with the current prices of these weapons you wont see any of these weapons like the Streamer/Chaingun.


Edit:

LR Pulse is 4 dmg 5 with commando
Enranged is 5 dmg 6 with commando

just so you know...  

Posted by Tashkin

Thank you for this.. for some reason I would have sworn the Green/Red rifle were only 5 dmg which is why I set the dmg to what they are. I just rechecked and you were right. I will adjust the nature shop weapons accordingly. However, with the current prices of these weapons you wont see any of these weapons like the Streamer/Chaingun.


Edit:

LR Pulse is 4 dmg 5 with commando
Enranged is 5 dmg 6 with commando

just so you know...

Wooow this change is crazy! The damages seem great and now we'll all have to test them and see which ones really stand out lol. Thank you!!

And wow I had no clue about LR Pulsar and Enraged Rifle damages... were they changed at some time? This whole time I've been going around telling people they were 5 and 6... whoops.

Edit: Here's my opinions on new damages:

- Poison Vine: This gun has a great rate of fire so its 6 damage makes it better than Red/Green Rifle. Currently it's priced at 6k (just like Red/Green) but I'd either raise the price or make it a 5.5 dmg gun to balance it against Red/Green.

- Flower Gun: Essentially Red/Green rifle with 0.5 more damage, which means it takes 1 less hit to kill an opponent. Honestly I think it's under priced right now (especially relative to Apple Launcher). I think a fair price would be 8k - 8.5k cause the upgrade from Red/Green is worth much more than 500 graalats. Alternatively you could reduce the dmg to 6 and it would be a pretty Red/Green rifle re-skin. (I can't tell if Flower is slightly faster than Red/Green, it could be)

- Apple Launcher: Right now it seems a bit outclassed by Flower gun because it has a slower fire rate. I think it's perfect as it is so long as a change to Flower Gun is made (either it becomes more expensive or loses 0.5 dmg)

- Grass Gun: I think this gun is balanced perfectly. It has a great attack rate and is basically a Pez Rifle for people who didn't get one from VIP.

- Watermelon: Another well balanced gun. It shoots very, very slow so the 8 damage is justified. I think the price could be upped but it's good where its at. Only issue with it is that it outclasses Egg Launcher (unless it shoots slower, I'm not sure): 1 more damage, automatic (not too big of an advantage), and the same price. Edit: Watermelon gun shoots much slower than Egg launcher and I think the bullet may travel slower, so the 8 dmg is justified

Overall I love the new guns!! Especially the Watermelon Gun since it's so different.

Random bugs: It seems like none of them make a shooting sound unless you're standing still, and their icon images are stretched funky.  

I really like the Leaf Dagger, but I don't like how it's held... Can you change the Gani to the normal combat knife? The current gain covers your face and is weird looking.

Current Gani on Leaf Dagger is probably the only reason I won't wanna buy it  

What happened to my tree dagger :3 and also some guns do not have sounds when you are walking and shooting at same time  

What is better, the leaf dagger or the dagger in spar room?