Posted by Torah

and flower only does .5 more...speed>power...

Damage adds up.

6 | 6.5
12 | 13
18 | 19.5
24 | 26
30 | 32.5
36 | 39
42 | 45.5
48 | Dead
Dead  

Posted by Yogurt

Damage adds up.

6 | 6.5
12 | 13
18 | 19.5
24 | 26
30 | 32.5
36 | 39
42 | 45.5
48 | Dead
Dead

You forget that vine gun has more spam rate which means more hits if you're good! Gotta look at both stats, not just damage  

Posted by Rockson

You forget that vine gun has more spam rate which means more hits if you're good! Gotta look at both stats, not just damage

I'm aware. I'm not saying the Flower gun is better. I'm justifying previous statements claiming the Vine isn't the best, but rather, even with the Flower?  

I want me my Doubleshots.  

Posted by Rockson

You forget that vine gun has more spam rate which means more hits if you're good! Gotta look at both stats, not just damage

Mhmm.  

To me it isn't about which gun 'spams' most. It's more about accurate and powerful shots. If ur spamming the cheese out of a gun ur most likely not hitting ur target effectively and ur wasting bullets  

Posted by Rotaruc

To me it isn't about which gun 'spams' most. It's more about accurate and powerful shots. If ur spamming the cheese out of a gun ur most likely not hitting ur target effectively and ur wasting bullets

Well that's true, it's just if you have a spammy gun, wider area to cover, and possible hit, if you can't aim, that is.  

The flower gun seems to be the most popular gun at the moment.  

Posted by Isaac

The flower gun seems to be the most popular gun at the moment.

Because people choose strength...not skill.  

Posted by Torah

That's pointless. Never noticed. Now it's OP for sure. But Tiny might NOT want to showdown. Also, speed is valuable in SD.

Every gun has doubled damage in showdown

Posted by Rockson

You forget that vine gun has more spam rate which means more hits if you're good! Gotta look at both stats, not just damage

Don't forget the vine guns weakness. When it shoots diagnol it always seems to leave open areas because of the ROF. Take a flower gun and go diagnol and you've got a win in spar.  

It works...it has no weakness; unless the Flmaethrower gets to burn nature shots.  

Posted by Torah

It works...it has no weakness; unless the Flmaethrower gets to burn nature shots.

I love how he just said what the weakness was, and you completely ignored it.  

Posted by Yogurt

I love how he just said what the weakness was, and you completely ignored it.

I don't see how he's correct.

Sorry.  

Posted by Torah

I don't see how he's correct.

At least he justified his statements.  

Posted by Rockson

You forget that vine gun has more spam rate which means more hits if you're good! Gotta look at both stats, not just damage

The rates of fire are the same I tested it with Darko where we lined up one with flower one with vine. Both fired at the same rate we both agreed on it as well as 3 other people I had watching. That means with both of the stats you brought up the flower gun would win. The rest is a matter of opinion.

Posted by Torah

I don't see how he's correct.

Sorry.

It doesn't matter how you see if I'm correct. People that know both of us know which one has more experience with zone pvp.