I doubt it's about the rule itself -- Tashkin lied about the rule, called other names and acted really rude.  

Posted by PumaD

I doubt it's about the rule itself -- Tashkin lied about the rule, called other names and acted really rude.

Obviously it was a rule if even Shiz knew about it... and his post is absolutely correct. These people and even yourself are just simply trying to make a verbal warning into something it isn't. Those two kids weren't banned and didn't even get a warning on their record.

Have some common sense and realize that you are not allowed to do what ever you please. If you get warned get over it you were only warned. Stop making these ignorant threads because some kid got in trouble for something he knew he wasn't allowed to do. Today he was actually banned for doing something else he knew he was allowed to do by Cassie. He took his jetpack into showdown and flew off the map and was killing players. Just so you know this is the person all of you are defending btw. He knew he wasn't allowed to do it just like most of the players know.

Stop trying to pull this sorry excuse that "We don't see the rules so their aren't any." Because you will be in the same spot Hanson is in right now... banned. So like I stated have some common sense and stop thinking you are allowed to get away with anything.

Btw... if you all actually took time to look at the report player list it has some of the things you aren't allowed to do. There is another option for things not listed as well... Rules are rules follow them. If you don't know if you are allowed to do something maybe you should ask before assuming it's allowed. I mean ask higher staff.  

Posted by Tashkin

Have some common sense and realize that you are not allowed to do what ever you please.

^^^  

I'm enjoying this show. very entertaining  

I'm asking myself what's more ignorant, "these topics" or you.

Anyways, why do we need to know who got banned, what for and by whom now? I don't see why you're bringing this up now..
And I'm still saying, when I was a GP Admin there, it was no rule. Means it couldn't be a rule when you were hired, or before.  

Posted by Kendama

Graalonline zone has now gone way downhill like Delteria with all the drama and staff abuse. Seriously, this is going to make stephan stop making iServers and just stick with era and classic

"Like Delteria with Staff abuse"...?

So tashkin warning a player for boosting is somehow like an entire staff team flaming eachother in public and cursing off players. Tashkin may not have spoken as politely as he could have but you guys were being seriously obnoxious. Seriously you should be glad he takes the time to even do things like that instead of sitting around doing nothing, I mean if I wasnt told I wouldnt even know there was a manager on other servers with the kind of activity in the community some display.

Posted by PumaD

I'm asking myself what's more ignorant, "these topics" or you.

Anyways, why do we need to know who got banned, what for and by whom now? I don't see why you're bringing this up now..
And I'm still saying, when I was a GP Admin there, it was no rule. Means it couldn't be a rule when you were hired, or before.

Pretty sure boosting has always been against the rules, on every server..  

Everybody, needs to take a calm long deep breath and just chill out. Tashkin only wants whats best for the server (with a bit of pride, obviously, sure he's a manager so it is a little bit unacceptable but I know yall can relate) and I know everybody else wants whats best for the server, too, right?
Complaining and keep attacking him is only going to slow down certain progress. Im sure you will not be banned from bomb spar forever, the best course of action is just to apologize and try to wait till you can play again. Is it not obvious everyone is at fault for holding a grudge and not trying to work towards a solution? The thing is, this isn't nearly as bad as how Delteria has been handling things. So look at what you do have, and don't worry about what you dont.  

Posted by Kendama

Everybody, needs to take a calm long deep breath and just chill out. Tashkin only wants whats best for the server (with a bit of pride, obviously, sure he's a manager so it is a little bit unacceptable but I know yall can relate) and I know everybody else wants whats best for the server, too, right?
Complaining and keep attacking him is only going to slow down certain progress. Im sure you will not be banned from bomb spar forever, the best course of action is just to apologize and try to wait till you can play again. Is it not obvious everyone is at fault for holding a grudge and not trying to work towards a solution? The thing is, this isn't nearly as bad as how Delteria has been handling things. So look at what you do have, and don't worry about what you dont.

well said.  

here comes all the typical suck ups.... whats new? Idc how small the offense was its still staff abuse. With tashkin still saying "you cant do whatever you want" is just ridiculous. Mock my words. This will not be the last time and the next time it happens it might not be so small and no one will see it.

Posted by ShizGodsu

You should know that teaming isn't allowed in any event games on Zone. It has been announced before.

Really has no point. If YOU want it to go away then stop making threads and wasting people's time.

To me it sounds like you're trying to find any small path to get PM or Tash in trouble over stupid things like this.

Back in december of 2012- Im almost positivie it was the doctor hosting this-- He hosted a showdown event for a hat. Pm me if you want to see the hat because i ended up winning it later... He hosted a showdown event. Duke was there with 4-5 obs members. Of course They all teamed on me and let duke win the hat. When i complained to the host? There was no rule against it so nothing could be done about it. I remember being told that clearly.


"stop making threads"? really... yeah lets just ignore this, let tashkin cover it up, and put our trust into him again. Top 3 stupidest things ive ever seen been said on graalians.

No one is trying to get tashkin in trouble. We want tashkin on zone but we also want him to own up to what he did and not try to bullsht us. Read the beginning of the staff abuse thread.  

Back in 2012 The Doctor obviously wasn't aware of the rules. It's pretty logical to know that Showdown, a.k.a, a Last man standing even, involves no teaming.

It's pretty bad when I hardly have the time to play, always occupied with Graphics, know the rules more than most players do. You know why that is? Simple.. simple.. logic.

And yes, if it wasn't you who did the wrong then why try covering the rulebreaker up for it? What's it bother you for? What do YOU even mean "put our trust in him again?" That makes no sense. You should take this as a lesson for not being aware of rules for future notes.

Remember this: If anyone is caught teaming in any event, there will be a punishment. Unless it is held as a Teaming event there will not.  

Dude you dont even play zone... Showdown is all about teaming. You'd know this if you friggin played. Dont speak to someone whos been in about 1,000+ showdowns and tell them it isnt. I get pms from multiple players "wanna team?" all the time. *** do you want proof? ill go to showdown right now and get asked by about 5 players, take pics, post em all here. Teaming is a huge part of showdown even if the game isnt meant to be played that way it is. and I never say "Yes ill team with u". I always say "No i dont team sorry." And you are gfx how would u even see the server rules? And yes When someone you trust lies, denies, and covers up something... you lose trust in that person. Simple LOGIC. dont come at me with bullsht man.  

First: Don't tell me I don't play enough to know the rules.

Second: I'm pretty aware of what the rules are on zone since day one. It may seem like I don't play but I play a lot more than most players. I've played plenty of showdowns to know how players act in it. I've been asked by many players even before I was staff.

Here, let me clear this up for you:
Showdown is a last man standing. Which does NOT involve teaming. You see someone teaming? Report them. It's in the rules. Abide by them.

Cool thing that you follow them when someone asks. *clap clap* You actually followed something.

Me being a GFX is the point of why it's sad on how you don't even know the rules for minigames in zone. I may be GFX but I've followed every rule on zone. I mean damn, you assume just because I'm a GFX Staff member (stepped down form GFXA) that I don't even know the rules? Lmao. That's idiotic. Who would work for a server that doesn't even know the rules? (Don't take that literal.)

Tell me. What are you trying to get at? Because you're still going on about nothing now that relates to even why this thread was made. I've already pointed out what Tashkin did was correct and didn't lie about anything.

Remember this: If anyone is caught teaming in any event, there will be a punishment. Unless it is held as a Teaming event there will not.

 

Posted by MrSimons

"Like Delteria with Staff abuse"...?

So tashkin warning a player for boosting is somehow like an entire staff team flaming eachother in public and cursing off players.

Pretty sure boosting has always been against the rules, on every server..

Accusing people of crying is offensive and pumad(prior staff) vs tash(current staff) so ya getting that delteria feel.

If you werent to busy gaging balls you would see that this was never about boosting. The problem is some players felt tash abused his power by helping his friend purplemoon with the game-play.

Posted by MrSimons

Seriously you should be glad he takes the time to even do things like that instead of sitting around doing nothing.

No they shouldnt. Thats his job regardless if he gets paid or not. If he wants his server to be successful he needs to work towards that goal its not just going to happen. If someone should be glad its zones staff that their players care enough about the server to bring things up like this before they get out of hand.

Posted by MrSimons

I mean if I wasnt told I wouldnt even know there was a manager on other servers with the kind of activity in the community some display.

When you have a pro staff team you have the choice of working behind the scenes. One day tash will have a pro team but for now he has to do with what he has and that means more in-game involvement from him.

Posted by ShizGodsu

Back in 2012 The Doctor obviously wasn't aware of the rules. It's pretty logical to know that Showdown, a.k.a, a Last man standing even, involves no teaming.
How is this logical? I dont think you understand logic

It's pretty bad when I hardly have the time to play, always occupied with Graphics, know the rules more than most players do. You know why that is? Simple.. simple.. logic.

If you have a free for all and theres a guy that is 10x better than the closest competitor wouldnt you try to find a strategy to beat him? The odds of you beating him one vs one are too low. Teaming up to take down the better player makes perfect sense. Look at shows like survivor, only one winner yet theres many alliances(teaming) to bring down the toughest competitor. That would be logical too me.

Posted by ShizGodsu

And yes, if it wasn't you who did the wrong then why try covering the rulebreaker up for it? What's it bother you for?

It could be easily said that you should take your own advice


Note: Shiz and psymon are making the argument lean towards the players side so pls just shut up  

You say teaming was against the rules in showdown for a long while... yet this guide quite obviously says teaming is a valid way to win. No one corrected it or anything.
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/e9/e971eec69b219dc63527b63ca1c988f66a37f23beef81037f73086b6db0f8dfa.jpg (Unsupported image host)  

Posted by ShizGodsu

Back in 2012 The Doctor obviously wasn't aware of the rules. It's pretty logical to know that Showdown, a.k.a, a Last man standing even, involves no teaming.

It's pretty bad when I hardly have the time to play, always occupied with Graphics, know the rules more than most players do. You know why that is? Simple.. simple.. logic.

Maybe it is logic but you know what can counter that? Tradition. It's been an idea since showdown started and it's always been accepted, new players saw it was fine and they continued the players after that saw it and they continued. No one has said anything about it until now that's why it's such an issue with people. Why didn't they enforce it earlier? I guarantee 75%+ of the ZPs didn't even know because it's always been accepted.

Does it seem logical for kids to dress up in costumes and go out during October 31st and walk up to strangers houses and get candy from them? No, it doesn't yet Halloween has been accepted for ages. No ones gonna end Halloween anytime soon because it's illogical. It doesn't seem very logical for this to happen in a last man standing game, yet it's been done for as long as I can remember without anyone stopping it.