Posted by Kyle Del. M. H.

Why not make it so that 1 ship attacks the other ship in order to get all of its loot. And if the ship attacking doesn't get the amount of loot they're suppose to get they fail and the defensive team gets points to enter the gst. Also the team can buy upgrading systems for defense but each upgrade is 5k+. That means if I buy defense it cost me 5k the. I upgrade more which will cost 10k be. If I want to upgrade again it'll cost 20k. So it doubles. The highest it could possibly go to is 160,000 gralats ( people in that team can chip in some money to pay off defenses. The team that wins the gst gets a boat that's very difficult to defeat. Guilds can get more recruits for their team if they pay a very high price. The boat should be a 2-3 story boat so you have to get to the bottom later of the boat. Players can customize their boat by placing defensive items that they get from upgrades. Many traps, metal blocks (to block the path of players to get to their loot and can only be taken down by slashing the blocks to a certain amount of times.) fences (similar to metal blocks.) are included with the upgrades.
Sorry if my grammar is incorrect im using an iPhone.

Yes this would be cool but it would be much much harder to develop and that would be a major turn off to any developer who would consider this idea

The best way to go is to represent the idea with as much simplicity as you think it would require in order to still operate in a fun way!

Posted by HON3Y BADG3R

Never will happen no space.

It is not hard to add a sea dedicated to this south of yorktown. That was in the original idea. That's where the actual ship vs ship, guild vs guild, or ship's vs boss baddy fights would occur.  

If you look back to the Water mounts thread, I mentioned this. GJ for expanding on it though!  

This would be a lot of fun, but it's such a huge undertaking. Imagine all the different mechanics that would have to be added. Not to mention, there's so much more that would need to be worked out, in terms of balance, weaponry, how each ship functions in relation to everything else, and that's just scratching the surface. Plus it would all have to be done within the limitations of Classic's coding.

I honestly think even my water mount idea is just way too complex to ever be implemented, and this seems like it would be even more difficult to create. I mean, it has the advantage of only applying to one area, and would sort of work as a side-game (kind of like CTF), so they wouldn't necessarily have to adjust many already-existing mechanics, but still. It almost sounds like a whole different game inside of Classic.

However, if there was a way that it could be done within the framework of Classic's current mechanics, maybe it could work.  

Posted by Narcosis

This would be a lot of fun, but it's such a huge undertaking. Imagine all the different mechanics that would have to be added. Not to mention, there's so much more that would need to be worked out, in terms of balance, weaponry, how each ship functions in relation to everything else, and that's just scratching the surface. Plus it would all have to be done within the limitations of Classic's coding.

I honestly think even my water mount idea is just way too complex to ever be implemented, and this seems like it would be even more difficult to create. I mean, it has the advantage of only applying to one area, and would sort of work as a side-game (kind of like CTF), so they wouldn't necessarily have to adjust many already-existing mechanics, but still. It almost sounds like a whole different game inside of Classic.

However, if there was a way that it could be done within the framework of Classic's current mechanics, maybe it could work.

By all means, what I have suggested would be a MAJOR undertaking by development and would be a major investment of resources, however, the way this could affect gameplay long term would be very real. It would add a whole new theme for players, and create an entire new crowd of Graalians who are competing.

I know it would be very long and tedious to script, despite its rather basic nature. However, to say it would be too complex to consider would be slightly pushing it. The basic principles of this are a new type of mounts (ships). They all follow the basic mechanics and then their specific code is altered to give them variation (merchant boat moves at a faster speed, gun boat uses a simple cannon ball attack.)

Uh here let me word it in a way that would make the scripting seem less complicated than it would sound (I am in no way saying this would be easy, still).

1) Create ships by using mount properties. Add specific properties that allow ships to traverse into "ship-only" areas like deep sea.

2) Create (presumably from LAT) a vast ocean for ship faring to take place, this would be the deep sea.

3) Create the three different boats available in shop, merchant ship goes faster, gun boat uses a re-skin of the arrow as a cannon ball shot, and brig would use some sort of 3-player mount system, where the two riders can decide when to shoot the cannons on their respective side (this would be the hardest).

4) Set-up a PvP system that works for ship battles.



Any additional content would just be added in later over time at convenience, and bugs could be sorted out during initial release stages. Even the things I posted above could be altered to be more simple/versatile with gscript.


TLDR:
I am not trying to say developing is easy, I am just trying to point out that Graal taking new turns towards gameplay could add much more playability while actually taking rather simple steps with the coding process by reusing current models.  

On the first map that pops up when logging onto graal with a PC you used to be able to access the facebook server. Maybe a separate server could be set up like that one, but this would be more water-oriented with more ocean space? Just an idea.  

Posted by Brick

On the first map that pops up when logging onto graal with a PC you used to be able to access the facebook server. Maybe a separate server could be set up like that one, but this would be more water-oriented with more ocean space? Just an idea.

Sounds pretty cool!  

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Nice ideas. I certainly would come back to classic for a little while if this was added.