Posted by Slick Vogediz

wow 15 minuets grinding. thats such a grind. and coal... yeah you're not going to get much thats a super low level rock! there is a leveling system for a reason. you cant tell me getting money is too hard when we have multiple people on the server with over a million gralats none of which are from gralat packs. and lets not forget we also have farming too! literally the easiest job in all of graal.
You people really need to stop complaining about this non issue.

Funny how most people actually agreed with me. Cut the BS. Honestly tired of "lemme defend the server cause I'm staff" mentality. I already said the problem lies in the issue of having to buy tools for many jobs of West. It's not an issue if the staff raise prices and leave the jobs alone. But it's a fkin issue when the staff raises prices AND nerf the jobs. It's one or another, not both. And 15 mins is not grinding? Did you even get my point? For all the newbies out there, they really are making a low profit since they have to buy axes over and over. That's the point I'm trying to make. And people over a million gralats? Seriously that dumb? That was way before the bug and mining/woodcutting nerfs came into play. You can't use that to defend this uncessary change lol. Gj on making people feel forced to get gralat packs cause the server is heading down the route of Era with the high prices and nerfed jobs. That balance between good payout and bad payout was decent but the nerfs broke it.  

Posted by Slick Vogediz

just goes to show how needed the nerfs were.

srsly now i cant even pay for my gold pick right after it breaks unless i dig into my bbc savings or go plant pick grinding  

this is absolutely the most spoiled community i've ever been apart of. for one sell prices were heavily buffed a while ago idk if anybody remembers that? there was a reason behind that but looking back now it was probably a mistake to do. ill go ahead and use this example again that i used on another post. a person i know personally only has 36 hours and has acquired over 100k gralats from farming and a bit of low level fishing and mining and thats after having purchased all the relevant weapons in the game. now stop telling me how hard it is to make money. cause its not.  

how tf can u make 100k from farming in 36 hours  

Posted by adventure923

how tf can u make 100k from farming in 36 hours

Gee idk? maybe because its super easy to make money on our server?  

Posted by Slick Vogediz

Gee idk? maybe because its super easy to make money on our server?

No pic no proof  

Posted by adventure923

how tf can u make 100k from farming in 36 hours

If that 36 hours is gaming hours, it's theoratically possible. Since the gaming hours only reflect on how much time you spent on the server, I'm not surprise if someone was just logging in to harvest and plant crops before logging off to do other things. Even I do that sometimes during non-festive events and go play other games.

Posted by Slick Vogediz

Gee idk? maybe because its super easy to make money on our server?

But even if those hours are gaming hours, then you can't tell how much time is needed to be able to harvest the crops. So you can't really say whether it is easy or not since that guy has to wait for quite some time to be able to achieve 100k.  

Posted by Slick Vogediz

this is absolutely the most spoiled community i've ever been apart of. for one sell prices were heavily buffed a while ago idk if anybody remembers that? there was a reason behind that but looking back now it was probably a mistake to do. ill go ahead and use this example again that i used on another post. a person i know personally only has 36 hours and has acquired over 100k gralats from farming and a bit of low level fishing and mining and thats after having purchased all the relevant weapons in the game. now stop telling me how hard it is to make money. cause its not.

Oh bs. Done arguing with you. Clearly the server is in the wrong for doing this. Telling me the person logs on, plant their crops, do a little mining and etc and logs off? Haha okay. Find that highly unbelievable. Must have done so before the nerfs.  

im fine with that. this is the dumbest argument thats been going on on the forums for the past month and i'd be happy to not have to show how necessary these changes are to spoiled people like you anymore. see the problem is people like you (i'm assuming you are mainly an era player since thats what it says in your profile) come over from era and only play to get all easy money so you can buy all the items and then go back to playing era. that is the problem. you aren't even a part of our community you are just here for the easy items.  

i quit era, and i am not here for easy items. i am here to have fun with cool ****, but that was basically ruined when jobs were nerfed AND the prices got higher  

G'day all,

Posted by xSupah*

.Honestly tired of "lemme defend the server cause I'm staff" mentality. I already said the problem lies in the issue of having to buy tools for many jobs of West. It's not an issue if the staff raise prices and leave the jobs alone. But it's a fkin issue when the staff raises prices AND nerf the jobs. It's one or another, not both. And people over a million gralats? Seriously that dumb? That was way before the bug and mining/woodcutting nerfs came into play. You can't use that to defend this uncessary change lol. Gj on making people feel forced to get gralat packs cause the server is heading down the route of Era with the high prices and nerfed jobs..

" tired of "lemme defend the server cause I'm staff" mentality. "
Of course there is this mentality but i am pretty sure Slick just using Common sense right here, will explain it after the next quote.

Posted by xSupah*

Said it once and I'll say it again. West was ruined by the times the nerfs started coming. Nerfing jobs is one thing. But nerfing jobs and increasing prices? That's a route that will force people to buy packs more often cause the jobs are not useful. I had 5.4k gralats and bought 2 Iron Pickaxes and grind some coal. That was 5.4 - 400 = about 5.0k. After about 15 mins grinding, I get around 5.5k. Just around a 500 profit? Really now. Nope, it's really 100 as I bought the 2 axes that costed me 400. See problem is a lot of jobs in West require you to buy tools for the job. So as said, nerfs weren't needed. You don't want to make a player get everything too easily but you don't want to make it where its too hard to get everything. Unfortunately, that's where West is headed.

One Question when you know Money Making is easy why don't you work a bit for any savings and when stuff starts nerfing jobs you are on the good side because you have saved and can invest in something else. Just be some kind of smart.
When you want easy Money and a lot of items then go play some sandbox game or Loot game. Where you start with infinity money or this stuff.
I hate to take the real life comparison, but when you have a job you start with an education which is worth some kind of currency, in Graal we do not have this education so you just buy some tools, if money making would be easy then there would be no challenge and you wouldn't have that one feel that you had success.
We do not force you to buy Packs. We just offer it.
You can buy those if you work in RL and you got no time for making money in the game. And you do know Ol west isn't really p2w to be honest, we are really cheap right now you can make 8k in 1 hour (Crops and mining) which is equal to 3$ graalat pack for 8k gralats so you basically working for the minimum wage in Greece.
which is actually good.
just a quick example that when you got an uncle that got a hobby like collecting model cars he will spent money on new cars so when graal is your hobby why not investing buying packs there is no difference.

Posted by Senpai Enigma

They had that money before the nerfs, see how long it would take them to get that much money now

those guys where smart and can invest in new things that way they make more money. And most of people complaining about nerfs cant be new players because they dont know how it was before so they will get used to the new system.

Posted by Slick Vogediz

Gee idk? maybe because its super easy to make money on our server?

True that and aslong we are on that stage you all should get some savebacks just in case we release something really nice and you come along flaming about the high prices. When you got the saving then high prices do not matter to you because you can still afford it.


So tl;dr
-Save your money now so when something get nerfed you dont need to flame then.
-New Players will get used to the system and i am pretty sure they will find new advance.
- when you want alot of items and stuff then go play sandbox games i recommend Minecraft, Arma 3 and Unturned.
-Next Time think about your flame post. (Maybe staff had the reason.)
- Remember the Staff do not work against you they want to work with you.
- Money Making is a challenge and is supposed to be some kind of hard as money is worth something.  

Posted by Slick Vogediz

this is absolutely the most spoiled community i've ever been apart of.

I agree my community is very spoiled  

My theory about prices increasing on all servers:

Unixmad doesn't see potential in graal anymore and wants money before all the servers die down.  

Posted by Slick Vogediz

im fine with that. this is the dumbest argument thats been going on on the forums for the past month and i'd be happy to not have to show how necessary these changes are to spoiled people like you anymore. see the problem is people like you (i'm assuming you are mainly an era player since thats what it says in your profile) come over from era and only play to get all easy money so you can buy all the items and then go back to playing era. that is the problem. you aren't even a part of our community you are just here for the easy items.

I'm sorry but now your calling me spoiled because I'm an Era player. Wow. Era is the server that began the P2W withing Graal servers phrase and out pops West and all. I don't play West to get easy items. Thanks for assuming for me like you have my mind. I actually play a lot of RPG games. Know what those have? Grinding. Know what I do? I grind ty. Show me how I'm spoiled? You may all deny it but these changes just influence gralat pack purchases. Why would I wanna spend my hard working money Taru? Oh right, you really won't start making profit till your high in level on a skill, and if you get a whole lot of farming pots. Gl to the newbies. Can call me spoiled all you want, but it's not cause I'm an Era player. It's cause these changes were in Era and made that server P2W. Honestly won't be suprised if there was a 150k+ gun coming.  

Posted by Slick Vogediz

Gee idk? maybe because its super easy to make money on our server?

I find it hilarious how someone who is such an ambassador of the "easy money" principle's status is "don't hate donate." Your accusing others of being lazy whilst being the laziest yourself. Seems like a contradiction no?




But yeah, money is too easy I (used to) have at least 6.5 million bbc in supers from almost no work.