The fine brothers - 2

Dusty · 02-01-2016

Reminds me of the Saga and Scrolls incident.

CM · 02-01-2016

sorry guys, I trademark posting on a forum so either pay up or I'm suing you

Zetectic · 02-01-2016

reaction vids are pretending, i wouldn't be surprised if it's some what scripted to say this line.
most of the reaction videos suck and awkward. i would watch unboxing vids over those sucky fake greedy reaction bs.

Rufus · 02-01-2016

Posted by Skyzer

It's perfectly justified to be worried, but they have already said exactly what they are doing. They aren't making it so people can't make reaction videos. They are just protecting their brand.

Yeah, probably to avoid things like this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33223511.

Areo · 02-01-2016

I don't mind that they wanted to protect their channel name and brand, but i think that this is pushing the Boundaries of what I can call "protection". Their isn't really much information on what constitutes their "format" either. Plus trademarking the word "react" in video names is far too overreaching in my opinion.

I don't know if they deserve this much hate, but I can say that hopefully it serves as a lesson to other content creators on the Do's and Dont's of IP law.

Sardon · 02-01-2016

just trademarked the product : oxygen
1$ per breath

Dusty · 02-01-2016

Posted by Areo

I don't mind that they wanted to protect their channel name and brand, but i think that this is pushing the Boundaries of what I can call "protection". Their isn't really much information on what constitutes their "format" either. Plus trademarking the word "react" in video names is far too overreaching in my opinion.

I don't know if they deserve this much hate, but I can say that hopefully it serves as a lesson to other content creators on the Do's and Dont's of IP law.

The problem is they're trying to protect something that's not theirs. It's a vague concept and they're not trying to protect it so much as trying to bully others into paying them.

I'm just relaying information I have read from reddit, but here's some interesting stuff:

Apparently Ellen did a segment on her show where she shows kids a bunch of old technology(old cellphones, typewriters, tape recorders and so on). They apparently aren't too happy with that and have called her out on twitter and asked their fans to spam the video with their youtube channel:

Not cool.

Also, they have shut down videos of reactions that were uploaded before they even existed. For example this video that was uploaded in 2012, a year before their channel existed.

http://web.archive.org/web/201204062...8&gl=US&hl=en#

Coco · 02-01-2016

Unbelievable...and I really liked their videos...

Reaction videos have existed probably since the freaking video camera was made. They can't copyright "react" and sue anyone that makes a reaction video. wtf?? That's like Yogcast saying no one can ever record themselves playing minecraft or gary's mod because "they did it first" (which they didn't, and neither did fine brothers do reaction videos first..) They're treating this as if it was their idea and they were first and anyone that ever makes a reaction video "stole" the idea from them. Like I said...unbelievable..

Ash Ketchum · 02-01-2016

Shout out to Coco for using the yogscast as an example

GOAT · 02-01-2016

Soon YouTube revenue will be owned by the 1%. Someone get Bernie in here before it gets out of hand.

twilit · 02-02-2016

Never liked the channel. "reaction" videos are about as cancerous as BuzzFeed.

Anyway, the whole issue is dumb. Just because you are the most popular creator of a certain style of a medium, doesnt mean you have trademark rights to it. And you cant have trademark rights to something that is so incredibly broad and vague.

Skyzer · 02-02-2016

Posted by twilit

Never liked the channel. "reaction" videos are about as cancerous as BuzzFeed.

Anyway, the whole issue is dumb. Just because you are the most popular creator of a certain style of a medium, doesnt mean you have trademark rights to it. And you cant have trademark rights to something that is so incredibly broad and vague.

If they get the trademark, then yes, being the most popular allows you to trademark something that broad.

Areo · 02-02-2016

Posted by Skyzer

If they get the trademark, then yes, being the most popular allows you to trademark something that broad.

So, if I posted a video titled "I react to getting dumped" they should be allowed to take it down, regardless if it infringes their content, just because I use the word react?

Again, I understand protecting your brand, but this isn't protection anymore. This is stifling other channels for self benefit.

metal · 02-02-2016

They deserve all the hate, you cant trademark "Reaction videos" or even something more specialized like "Kid reaction or senior reaction" videos, these have existed for years before them.

Weeno · 02-02-2016

I don't get it so what happened? To me it seems like they're just explaining that they won't sue you for making a react video, or is it the opposite?

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Dusty Should be fixed. Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,359	Reminds me of the Saga and Scrolls incident.

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CM cute frog Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,644	sorry guys, I trademark posting on a forum so either pay up or I'm suing you

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Zetectic Bloodvayne Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,087	reaction vids are pretending, i wouldn't be surprised if it's some what scripted to say this line. most of the reaction videos suck and awkward. i would watch unboxing vids over those sucky fake greedy reaction bs.

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Areo Dr. Professor Moderator Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: I’m always located somewhere Posts: 1,205	I don't mind that they wanted to protect their channel name and brand, but i think that this is pushing the Boundaries of what I can call "protection". Their isn't really much information on what constitutes their "format" either. Plus trademarking the word "react" in video names is far too overreaching in my opinion. I don't know if they deserve this much hate, but I can say that hopefully it serves as a lesson to other content creators on the Do's and Dont's of IP law. Last edited by Areo; 02-01-2016 at 05:34 PM. Reason: Assffghjkl

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Sardon Deus Vult Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Le Canada Posts: 3,811	just trademarked the product : oxygen 1$ per breath

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Coco iClassic Dev Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Onnet Town Posts: 1,945	Unbelievable...and I really liked their videos... Reaction videos have existed probably since the freaking video camera was made. They can't copyright "react" and sue anyone that makes a reaction video. wtf?? That's like Yogcast saying no one can ever record themselves playing minecraft or gary's mod because "they did it first" (which they didn't, and neither did fine brothers do reaction videos first..) They're treating this as if it was their idea and they were first and anyone that ever makes a reaction video "stole" the idea from them. Like I said...unbelievable..

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Ash Ketchum Veritired ✔️ Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,441	Shout out to Coco for using the yogscast as an example

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GOAT Hyrule Knights Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In your head 24/7 Posts: 6,348	Soon YouTube revenue will be owned by the 1%. Someone get Bernie in here before it gets out of hand.

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twilit michael Join Date: May 2012 Location: Hyrule Posts: 3,511	Never liked the channel. "reaction" videos are about as cancerous as BuzzFeed. Anyway, the whole issue is dumb. Just because you are the most popular creator of a certain style of a medium, doesnt mean you have trademark rights to it. And you cant have trademark rights to something that is so incredibly broad and vague.

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metal Amateur Programmer Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Illinois Posts: 683	They deserve all the hate, you cant trademark "Reaction videos" or even something more specialized like "Kid reaction or senior reaction" videos, these have existed for years before them.

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Weeno Guy who gets roasted Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: behind u Posts: 3,599	I don't get it so what happened? To me it seems like they're just explaining that they won't sue you for making a react video, or is it the opposite?