Posted by Thallen

GFX staff, Kenovo (the same guy who later submitted, and had approved, multiple Christmas hats designed after his in-game guild "FROOT", which is a clear conflict of interest and maybe even a copyright concern considering it's all designed after a Marina & The Diamonds album)

I mean he wasn't actually trying to promote his guild or anything. He just rly rly rly liked the album (rly rly liked it) to a point of inspiration. I don't see how fruit headphones would be violating a copyright or promoting a guild.  

I personally think that edits should only be allowed if there is an actual reason. I get that people want their own personal guild hat won an GST, but thats not how the system currently works. The hats are designed by staff (as far as I know) and put there as a prize for people to win. I figured from this thread that the winner can actually choose the hat from a few. So take the one you like best, but you gotta live with it.

If you want your own customized GST hat, iClassic could respond to that by allowing the winner an actual self-made hat.

I personally think that people just gotta live with the fact how the hat looks, if you don't like it don't choose it. For example we had 5 official guilds of Venus Gospel (1 + 4) and a whole bunch of people who didn't fit in any of those guilds (we actually didn't noob recruit). Imagine if over 100 people give their input of improvement ideas for the hat. Even a whole guild is alot already. Who has the final word? The guild leader? A vote? Etc... Of course a lot of those issues could be resolved, but in the end it would just change the colour of a single hat. A lot of work and Drama for a simple hat, so that's why I think a single hat isn't actually worth it, sorry.

And as Coco said, the cache is a bitch on Graal. With everything, and even myself as a LAT am inflicted by the great deal of time to actually update something for every single person online. So at least respect that reason, even if you disagree with everything else.  

Alrite every1 who voted no has 0 chance of ever getting 1 except inco n winter lol  

If it's this much trouble to deal with the cache for hats that appear every 3 months, there must be a serious problem with why it is this big of a deal in the first place, and also a good reason to release less hats in general. This all seems like a pretty short-term solution from that perspective.

If it truly is not as bad as that, then I see no issue with it as far as workload goes, only pride possibly.  

Voted yes because in all honesty the first place prize for GST should be that the guild who wins is allowed to upload their own custom hat entirely.  

Posted by Fulgore

If it's this much trouble to deal with the cache for hats that appear every 3 months, there must be a serious problem with why it is this big of a deal in the first place, and also a good reason to release less hats in general. This all seems like a pretty short-term solution from that perspective.

If it truly is not as bad as that, then I see no issue with it as far as workload goes, only pride possibly.

The Problems are the edits, not the actual first uploads  

Posted by Chelterrar

The Problems are the edits, not the actual first uploads

But isn't that basically the same as adding one more hat?  

sounds legit I'm all for it  

Posted by David

Voted yes because in all honesty the first place prize for GST should be that the guild who wins is allowed to upload their own custom hat entirely.

So you're saying they own a personal custom hat for only 6 players for an event that takes one day while some people have to spend 1k hours for a hat that gets added to 25 players?
I don't see how that's fair lol  

Posted by iBubble

So you're saying they own a personal custom hat for only 6 players for an event that takes one day while some people have to spend 1k hours for a hat that gets added to 25 players?
I don't see how that's fair lol

I've done both. Winning the Gst is much harder.  

Seems fair and proportionate to me considering that winning a GST is harder + more prestigious than being part of a 1k towering guild.

Is it fair that we're competing for a prize that we don't even want 90% of the time? That doesn't seem really fair to us, tbh. Five of the seven GST hats that I have are honestly a complete waste of space in my hat inventory.  

Posted by David

Seems fair and proportionate to me considering that winning a GST is harder + more prestigious than being part of a 1k towering guild.

Is it fair that we're competing for a prize that we don't even want 90% of the time? That doesn't seem really fair to us, tbh. Five of the seven GST hats that I have are honestly a complete waste of space in my hat inventory.

I do agree that they need to make gst hats a lot better. I just don't agree on getting custom ones made by the guild or for the guild themselves  

wtf winter is alive?  

Posted by iBubble

I do agree that they need to make gst hats a lot better. I just don't agree on getting custom ones made by the guild or for the guild themselves

I agree with GST hats needing to be a lot better, because it's clear the community has been unhappy with them for a while now.

However, can you please elaborate a bit on why you don't agree on custom hats?  

Posted by Yog

I mean he wasn't actually trying to promote his guild or anything. He just rly rly rly liked the album (rly rly liked it) to a point of inspiration. I don't see how fruit headphones would be violating a copyright or promoting a guild.

I don't really care that he did it, just doesn't seem right after how he told us we shouldn't be granted an edit when we actually achieved something as a guild, whereas his was some popstar fan guild that basically managed to get 5 hats publicly uploaded that clearly represent it

Posted by iBubble

So you're saying they own a personal custom hat for only 6 players for an event that takes one day while some people have to spend 1k hours for a hat that gets added to 25 players?
I don't see how that's fair lol

I've led 5 1k guilds and won 9 GSTs. My longest 1k guild took ~40ish days. The GST is every 90 days.

On top of that, you're guaranteed to hit 1k if you just stay at it. You can enter the GST 20 times and still not win through persistence and effort - [insert SLX joke here]. Even when you do win the GST, 7 people get the hat and 25 people get a 1k hat.